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Standing by the docks in downtown Nanaimo, B.C., on Monday morning, Liberal MP Alexandre Mendes told Radio-Canada she came to this week's Liberal caucus retreat with a message from her constituents: "dozens and dozens" of them were "adamant" the Liberal Party needed a new leader.

Speaking later to CBC's Power & Politics, Mendes said it was hard to pinpoint a specific reason or issue to explain her constituents' feelings for the prime minister.

"It's a very generalized ... 'we're tired of his face' kind of thing," she explained.

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[–] AnotherDirtyAnglo@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 month ago

Trudeau underestimates how many people will vote against their own best interests because of a grudge.

And when their social services are cut, and they're made homeless, or sick / dead / disabled because they couldn't get the healthcare they needed, they'll still find a way to blame anyone other than the people responsible for extending their misery.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"I think a lot of people, when they listen to Poilievre and the things that he says, eventually they'll decide, 'OK, maybe I don't like Trudeau, but I really don't like Poilievre,'" Marcus Powlowski, the Liberal MP for Thunder Bay–Rainy River, told a group of reporters on Wednesday.

Yeah. Hoping that because PP is dumber than bag of marbles will help Trudeau win is a sad excuse to vote for more of the same lackadaisical leadership for another four years.

And that leaves us with another Con shitheel in power ... again.

Oh the joy. :(

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

If I were an MP and this was my party's official line, I would be very worried.

You need people to want to vote for you, if you don't give then something they'll just not vote, like in Ontario, which only boosts the CPC who are energized and angry.

[–] kevinrns@mstdn.social -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

@girlfreddy

Resign or lose Canada to the trumped Canadian cons. Selfish petrol fool liar.

Trudeau must be defeated if he does not resign. Burning 179 Billion Tons if Oil is death.

Trudeau is the World Oil Death Candidate.

Defeat Trudeau. Work DAY and night so Trudeau is not returned.

#lpc #canpoli #canada

NO!

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Then the NDP is our only other viable choice, because PP and his Cons are no where near ready for prime time.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'll certainly be voting for them but unfortunately we still don't have voting reform to make them a reasonable choice in any riding.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago

we still don't have voting reform

If only there was somebody who campaigned on this promise!

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago

I grew up in Saskatchewan where back in the day (60s and 70s) voting NDP was automatic.

Alan Blakeney (NDP), premier from 1971-82, brought in a resolution to add a $0.10 per litre gas tax that would go into a Heritage account (so that Sask would have some savings for the next recession/drought).

The population was pissed, so the next election they voted in Grant Devine (PC), who immediately spent every cent in the fund to fulfill his campaign promises and, by 1991, had Saskatchewan on the brink of bankruptcy.

As of 2007 Sask has had far right wing leadership in the form of the Saskatchewan Party ... a far cry from who they supported and believed in when Tommy Douglas was premier.

The NDP recently won in Manitoba, but we have a huge mess left over from the Pallister/Goerzen/Stefanson fiascos.

[–] kevinrns@mstdn.social -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

@girlfreddy

The Trudeau National Policy of Expanding Oil Export Infrastructure is a firehose of gasoline on #climate collapse.

Its the singular failure, the historic failure of his form of the Canadian Liberal Party.

"We have enough time to sell and burn a hundred billion more tons of oil." Is the forest fire burning lie of our time. It MUST END

CO2 TRAPS heat, like a closed window holds heat in a parked car. Global temperatures will increase until CO2 levels FALL, not when emissions fall.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Look, the US is our BIG next door neighbour and if they quietly request that we continue to work the oil sands (as I suspect they have), then we will ... no matter who is PM.

Yelling about that isn't gonna change it. The only way we might see incremental change is if we vote in an NDP gov't (but I wouldn't bet on it).

I'd also like you to tell us who you will vote for instead of the Liberals.

[–] kevinrns@mstdn.social -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

@girlfreddy

Defeat and end the Trudeau disaster, there is more than enough time for a leadership contest, it WILL invigorate the Liberals.

The Biden Adminsttratuon WOULD LOVE for Canada to begin exporting CLEAN new energy, Biden CLOSED coal, all of it.

The 35 billion in EXPORT expansion is NOT going to serve the US.

Neither argument is useful.

Canada burned 3 centuries of logging's trees in one summer.

30 Billion Trees.

This year's fire is πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ history's 3rd largest

#Climate #ALARM

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Biden CLOSED coal, all of it.

No he didn't.

In response to a lawsuit from environmentalists, the Biden administration is ending new leases for coal mining on federal lands in the most productive part of America's top coal producing state. Source

Canada burned 3 centuries of logging's trees in one summer.

30 Billion Trees.

Can you please provide the link for this data?

And you never answered this question ... I'd also like you to tell us who you will vote for instead of the Liberals.

[–] kevinrns@mstdn.social -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

@girlfreddy

I have pinned some posts on the fires, though I cant imagine how you know anything about Canada and not know Canada burned 18 million hectares of forest last year, more than Five Million this year.

Trudeau resigning allows the Liberal Party to end oil expansion begin building new energy to replace oil and failing hydro.

The leadership contest will be good for the LPC and Canada.
Maybe even stop PP

Biden closed coal burning electrical generation during COP, 20% of US electricity

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Biden closed coal burning electrical generation during COP, 20% of US electricity

You said he closed all of it. I posted facts that refuted that.

Now please start posting your links to back your assertions.

[–] kevinrns@mstdn.social -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

@girlfreddy

I guess you really want Justin to stay on. Im sorry this is so hard for you.

This isnt twitter, you can take your stuff elsewhere.

Good day.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Gtfo. You can't even answer some questions. You act like a troll, therefore I will treat you as such.

[–] kevinrns@mstdn.social -1 points 1 month ago

@girlfreddy

Good bye, learn to handle pressure better.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

I asked where you found the "30 billion trees" quote.

And don't act so arrogant. Nobody died and made you king.

[–] potate@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I don't see any of the pinned posts in your post or comment history. While I agree on the urgency of addressing climate change and agree that we need to substantially increase the speed of our deployment of renewables, it's completely reasonable for someone to ask for sources.

We need MORE fact checking, not less. When someone asks me for sources, I'm THRILLED to share with them, because that is someone who is interested and thinking critically. It's someone I can have a dialogue with.

[–] kevinrns@mstdn.social -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

@potate

You dont see any pinned posts?
Why not?

You can't see a comment history?
How come?

_

You dont have to fact check Canada's forest fires.

All the fire posts have links, most of them to ciffc.ca.

If we need to fact check the Forest Fire Catastrophe, and you're Canadian, I have to ask where are your lungs?

Do you really not know about the 18 million hectares of forests burned into their roots?
__

this is where the pinned posts are

https://mstdn.social/@kevinrns

[–] potate@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I went to your Lemmy profile, nothing there.

Thanks for providing the link - but I think that you should have posted it here instead of responding with derision.

[–] kevinrns@mstdn.social -1 points 1 month ago

@potate

You are insulting people on a social you arent using? Can't use?

Please block.me.

[–] kevinrns@mstdn.social -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

@potate

It frightens me that a Canadian says they dont know about the 160,000 Square Kilometres of Burn in 2023

This is how much burned in 2023.

Everything under the square is burned to the roots. Including the black lines.

[–] potate@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm assuming you meant to include an image here?

I live through the smoke every year, and have had to retrofit a ton of of air filters into my home. Believe me, I know - I live and play in the areas that are burning. But someone asking for a reference is a GOOD thing and responding dismissively doesn't sway people to better understand, it turns them off of your message.

[–] kevinrns@mstdn.social -2 points 1 month ago

@girlfreddy

Did you know Hydro was failing?

Global warming which is turning Canada's forests into kindling, ready to burn into the roots, ready to die standing, is from heat evaporating soil and reduced rainfall.

That's the sine qua non of #climate warming. Also means that Canada is no longer Exporting Hydro Electricity to the US but is IMPORTING energy as oil fed climate warming empties dams, reduces power.

We MUST build solar wind and batteries, end subsidising oil, or we don't make it.

[–] kevinrns@mstdn.social -1 points 1 month ago

@girlfreddy

Did you know that burning oil creates 4 times as much CO2 as oil burned?

That 10 billion tons of oil produces 45 billion tons of CO2?

That there's no "price" for carbon capture.

Governments pay for carbon capture, expensed like advertising, a flag to fly pretending to be doing something about #Climate

One scientific article hailed progress that could reduce carbon capture costs to "several hundred dollars a ton"

What is several hundred dollars a ton times 45 billion tons?