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Got greeted with this message today. I've been playing Apex on linux for more than a year. Not sure if this could be related? Is this just me?

I've contested the ban and I'm currently waiting for a response from ea support.

UPDATE : Got an email response from EA today. It's basically a generic message saying that my account was associated with "cheating practices" and so they will not remove the ban.

This is absolutely fucking ridiculous! I've been playing this game since 2020 and have 3K+ hours on record, now this shit happens and there's no recourse ? Fuck this company.

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[–] 20hzservers@lemmy.world 48 points 5 days ago (2 children)

There a free cheats for apex on Linux that are undetected by their shitty anti cheat. These Linux still eventually get caught manually so the anti cheat team just sees a lot of Linux users cheat and innocent players get caught in the crossfire b/c of their incompetence.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 47 points 5 days ago (8 children)

Why do they care what OS people use? Is it the anti-cheat software that needs Windows?

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Not sure on ApeLegs but they have increasingly been disabling linux "support" for the Battlefields because of their anti-cheat.

I don't know how popular ApeLegs actually is. But for a lot of live games? Those are making MASSIVE bank and anything that can hurt the economy can kill the game. So a lot of studios actively just disable/block linux support because the added effort of making sure everything works in Proton is too big of a risk. Because nothing would increase Linux marketshare quite like free vdollars in Fortnite.

It really fucking sucks. But I find that many studios (like Digital Extremes) are really good about making it clear that even though they don't officially support Linux, they are very much fans of Proton (and Warframe has had a lot of bugfixes specifically FOR Proton support). Whereas EA has spent the past few months systematically disabling Linux "support" for every game they develop.

[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I don't know how popular ApeLegs actually is

~~13th~~ 7th most played game on Steam in the past 24 hours, and 13th at the moment https://steamdb.info/charts/

[–] Zeke@fedia.io 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They don't. I've been playing Apex on Linux for years now. Apex is doing ban waves for cheaters. OP likely did something that looked like or was cheating.

[–] TrousersMcPants@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (2 children)

What he did was play on linux. You can have kernel level support for anti cheat on Linux so they look at that and see it as "suspicious" then ban.

[–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 3 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Apex does not use kernel level anti cheat. It just uses normal easy anti cheat.

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[–] Zeke@fedia.io 2 points 5 days ago

Like I said in my previous comment. I also play on Linux and have been for years since season 12. I have not been banned. I also know people who have been banned on Windows who supposedly didn't cheat. Maybe they did something toxic in game. We can't really know what actually happened.

[–] degen@midwest.social 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

In the past I don't think it was possible to even play on Linux because of the anti-cheat, but I think Proton worked out a way to emulate it. Maybe something to do with that if it's not technically "official" support? It's extra stupid if the emulated anti-cheat is working fine.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

No. EAC and Battleye developed ways to explicitly support proton, which has to be explicitly enabled by the developer for the game to run.

Proton didn't change, the popular AC options did. They've had proton support pretty much since the steamdeck launched, and it works great as long as the developer of a game bothers checking the checkbox for it.

EAC works on linux just fine, and the fact that Apex runs, means Respawn deliberately allows it.

[–] degen@midwest.social 1 points 5 days ago

Even worse!

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[–] griefreeze@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

Same thing happened to me, unfortunate for us...

[–] soloner@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Tbh I know this isn't helpful, but I recommend take the L and find better games to play. Errantly perma banning users shows a lack of consumer consideration and does not deserve further energy to fix. They fucked up, take your business elsewhere.

Again, I know it's not helpful but I think worth considering. Companies some decades ago used to be user experience as the top goal, but that has gone to the sidelines for many companies, and I don't think it's good to normalize. Hence, boycott when it happens.

[–] helios@social.ggbox.fr 11 points 5 days ago

I'm sorry to say it is extremely popular (for some good reasons imo) and my friends are playing it. Besides, not a lot of competitive games even support linux to begin with. I was grateful that Apex did until now.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I got banned last year. It was for the best tbh

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago

You filthy fuckin Linux casual!!!!

.../s

[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

They probably just flagged you for not being in the normal environment. For all their bravado their detection is dogshit. I've had issues with them just flagging something over a VM and... flagging a batch file closing their launcher. I wish I was joking.

[–] GustavoM@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Nah, they are doing you a favor.

[–] SolarPunker@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

<< If this Linux guy is so smart to use that OS...it shouldn't play this shitty game. >> -EA staff, actually doing something good for the planet

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Did you pay for this game?

(Edit: just asking, not making a point)

[–] helios@social.ggbox.fr 11 points 5 days ago

No it is free to play. Besides, since I don't care much about skins and whatnot, I've never spent a dime on the game.

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