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With the remake of Speak No Evil out I was thinking about this topic. I can find that there are times where it's OK to make remakes and times where it's not. I like Chris Stuckmann's take on it; if it adds something more to the movie than what was already there to begin with go for it. But if it's just a frame by frame remake what gives? Why should I not just watch the original movie?

Speak No Evil is a really amazing movie that I really have a hard time understanding why they would make a remake of. It really did not need one, the original is really so good and effective that It will scare most people.

What do you guys think about this subject?

Spoiler alert: Do not watch the trailer of the remake if you haven't watched any of them. It's going to totally ruin the movie as it spoils mostly everything involving the plot.

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[–] TyrianMollusk@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I think they're sad, creatively bankrupt exercises that generally shouldn't get made, but on the other hand, it's good when they at least do different things or bring real ideas to the table. Tons of horror movies really aren't very good, so you'd expect doing a good thing better to be a slam-dunk, but it's rare for a remake to actually take that and execute. Even a frame-by-frame remake has the potential to do better and bring out the best in a proven idea, or even fix something that wasn't appreciated from the many limitations a lot of old horror worked under. That's one aspect more specific to horror that makes remakes potentially a lot more useful to do, but it's still an issue that people making remakes happen are usually doing it because they don't have something better.

Friday the 13th (2009) did a great job mixing polish, old ideas, and tongue-in-cheek series self awareness that all make it a fun way to enjoy what was good as well as what was bad about the early F13 movies. Then you have things like Shutter, where the remake is basically the same but still manages to be worse at every opportunity on top of the weird and pathetic jingoism. That was just ugly all around, and pollutes the movie space, so now we have to be forever careful to clarify Shutter (2004) instead of Shutter (2008), because the only thing seeing the remake does is reduce the impact of seeing the better movie.

[–] Ab_intra@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Shutter

Oh shit. Is there another version of this? I've watched the remake apparently and didn't even know there was another, better version.. I actually liked the remake but I'm adding the original to my watchlist!

Also I kinda agree with mostly everything you're saying.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I think even shot-for-shot remakes are fine when done right, which isn't very often. My most anticipated movie of this year is Eggers' Nosferatu remake

[–] Lisk91@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In my opinion, the only three (technically speaking) horror remakes that I can think of, which are actually very good are:

The Thing (1982) [forget the 2011 version]

Bram Stoker's Dracula (1992)

Mary Shelley's Frankenstein (1994)

In these three particular cases, the directors have successfully enriched the original stories by expanding on specific aspects barely hinted in the books or previous works. For example, the theme of sexuality in the vampyrism of Dracula or the true feelings of paranoia and isolation depicted in The Thing. All this with the addition of amazing visual effects, and great actors interpretations.

[–] Ab_intra@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Many good points here! I personally think The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Friday the 13th (2009) and A Nightmare on Elm Street (2010) are pretty good remakes myself. I cannot say I've gone this deep into it like you have in your thought prosses, but I think they add some elements that makes it work. The story in these movies are maybe not worked on so much but they did a decent job at making these movies "modern" if you will.

I now see that I'm contradicting myself by what I wrote in my OP but my view is maybe a bit more nuanced than what I wrote there.