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Is BSD "unix-like" or is it "true Unix"? Is it welcome here? (feddit.de)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Hopfgeist@feddit.de to c/unix@sh.itjust.works

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What's the general opinion on the BSDs? Are they just Unix-Like (like Linux), or are they really Unix?

Some call them "heritage Unix", because, although they no longer contain a single line of AT&T code (and haven't for over 40 years), they were ultimately derived from the original Unix.

This is a bit tongue-in-cheek, because I wonder, if you consider BSD to be "true Unix", what other "Unix-like" operating system besides Linux kernel-based systems there are. Or are "real" Unices also considered "unix-like"?

As an aside, what about macOS, if you use the command line a lot?

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[–] PCChipsM922U@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's more Unix like than Linux. It's sticks to the Unix philosophies more than Linux does. MacOS is basically a modded version of FreeBSD with a DE.

[–] darkpanda@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

macOS is also a certified UNIX according to the Open Group:

https://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/

[–] PCChipsM922U@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

All BSD flavours are as far as I know.

[–] Quill7513@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah, UNIX certification requires paying money and almost all of the BSD spins said "That's dumb, we barely have money as it is"

[–] PCChipsM922U@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Smart choice. I didn't know that, thought it was free, cuz I think I read somewhere that all were certified... I guess I remembered wrong. It was probably about something esle.

[–] darkpanda@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The list of “certified” UNIXes is pretty limited. The referenced site only lists like 7 UNIX versions as certified and don’t mention FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD or DragonFlyBSD, just stuff like AIX, SCO, IBM z/OS and HP-UX in addition to macOS.

[–] PCChipsM922U@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Hm, I thought all of them were... maybe there's a process and it takes time and money. From what I can see, all of those are proprietary and commercial.

[–] Borgzilla@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

https://vermaden.wordpress.com/2022/06/19/is-freebsd-a-real-unix/

Personally, I consider macOS, BSDs, and Linux real "Unixes".

[–] blackstrat@lemmy.fwgx.uk 2 points 1 year ago

They're more unix like than anything else in widespread use.

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