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Café

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Welcome to our virtual third place, The Café.

Come on in and make a new human connection over a cup of coffee (or Teh Tarik). This is a casual community, do whatever you want, share your oyen pics, your frustrations, and even organize a weekend picnic with the community. The world is your oyster.

Rules are simple, be kind and civil with each other. As with any other café, rude patrons will be kicked out.

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[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Was supposed to hike this morning, but i forgot i told my mom we gonna go visit my sister's new shop so hiking postponed 🙈

Too bad because the weather is really nice today after a few days of raining, but ehh it's a nice day to go out as well

[–] yong1996@monyet.cc 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 2 points 1 year ago

Not wasted, still got a pretty nice day huhu

[–] zen@monyet.cc 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] aerir@lemmy.aerir.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What are you running with UTM?

[–] zen@monyet.cc 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

sorry, i posted it in hopes of getting some replies from apple users, but i don't have any apple devices myself.

anyway, since utm is using qemu under the hood, i wonder how easy is it to run plain qemu on ios…

by the way, today's daily thread is so low traffic!

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 3 points 1 year ago

Cuti leh, relax first 🙈

[–] refl8ct0r@monyet.cc 2 points 1 year ago

still getting used to navigating Memmy on iOS and lemmy in general

[–] Naomikho@monyet.cc 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

😆 people are probably either outside or sleeping in

[–] zen@monyet.cc 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

too bad sleeping in works for me sometimes, but not lately…

[–] Naomikho@monyet.cc 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oof :( same here tbh. I just wake up somehow, even if I should sleep more

[–] zen@monyet.cc 1 points 1 year ago

yea, then i'll need to take a nap in the evening

[–] aerir@lemmy.aerir.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All good no worries, I am a new macOS user myself and using UTM for desktop VM. Unsure how that is used in mobile environment.

[–] zen@monyet.cc 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

that's interesting. what were you using before macos, and why did you decide to switch?

as for utm, are you running windows or linux on it?

another foss virtualization project for mac that i've come across is xhyve, but that doesn't seem to be receiving updates lately.

[–] aerir@lemmy.aerir.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mainly Windows, tried many flavors of Linux desktops before as well but the need of troubleshooting random problems have really put me off. My main PC still runs Windows, macOS for work laptop.

Running Windows in my UTM, not really using it but just in case :)

[–] zen@monyet.cc 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

which flavors did you try?

and what problems did you need to troubleshoot (probably graphics cards?)

[–] aerir@lemmy.aerir.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All the common ones, including Arch (of course) :P

Ye I am using Nvidia, so that didn't help. Usually I'll hop into Linux distro every year as my attempt to move away from Windows, the most recent issue I can recall is mixed monitor refreshed rate not playing well ie. 144hz + 60hz monitor combi.

By default, X11 uses the lowest refresh rate and apply that to both screens - OK fine. Then I switched to Wayland, the refresh rate issue gone but I noticed some apps, including Discord doesn't seem to play well, random flickering and shits. Switched back to X11, managed to fix the issue after hours of Googling. At that point, I was like meh - too much effort to get things to work for Linux. Back to Windows for my day-to-day usage, especially gaming.

[–] zen@monyet.cc 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

how about gentoo, slackware, pardus, gobo, nixos?

i guess if you game, then linux is mostly out of the question.

[–] aerir@lemmy.aerir.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah ain't got time for Gentoo and the less mainstream ones, may try NixOS next year. Heard good things about it.

[–] zen@monyet.cc 1 points 1 year ago

i am very curious whether nixos does anything differently that would make your graphics experience better, but i wouldn't be too hopeful

[–] dukeGR4@monyet.cc 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

when would OLED tech reach maturity and become mainstream within the TV/Computer monitor scene? still so expensive tho...

OR is it gonna be like full-frame camera sensor whereby it would never ever reach mainstream and always priced at a premium?

[–] munkkey@monyet.cc 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There aren't many OLED manufacturers making screens bigger than phones, and yields are usually lower than LCD panels. Perhaps in 10 years the display landscape will change enough to make OLED more widely used.

[–] dukeGR4@monyet.cc 1 points 1 year ago

I think there are not that many tech manufacturers in general.. camera sensors, computer chips, lithium battery… can all be traced back to a handful of manufacturers

With continual investment on newer tech and political will I think it’s possible the drastically increase output.

[–] ruk_n_rul@monyet.cc 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Lemmy.world is upgrading to 1.18.3 tomorrow. Apparently list results are going to change drastically.

We got ETA on our own upgrade?

p.s. it's looking like the bawang bouquet about to be picture of the week tomorrow.

[–] zen@monyet.cc 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

there will be at least 5-10 minutes of downtime for db migrations though (more if the db size is huge). of course, after the long migrations the db size is reported to shrink significantly.

anyway, there's already been at least 2 easily triggered/discoverable bugs:

  • view context for comments does not work properly (i heard it may even crash jerboa)
  • all software versions in the instances list are displayed as 2.0

hopefully they will release a 0.18.4 quickly with fixes for that.

[–] oyenyaaow@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] zen@monyet.cc 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

don't scare our admins 😱

monyet already has a dev instance, so they can import the db from the main instance there, and do the db migrations to see if that'll succeed.

precautionary measures can be taken on the dev instance so it doesn't attempt to federate with all the data from here.

i can think of (for testing out db migrations on the dev instance):

  • run lemmy_server with the --disable-scheduled-tasks cli flag, which will prevent background federation tasks from running (so federation events will only be triggered by actual interaction, like posting, voting, subscribing, and of course such things should not be done on the dev instance)

  • if that's still not enough and we want to be extra sure the dev instance doesn't federate with data from over here, then just block outgoing http/https connections at the firewall while doing the db migrations try-out (also don't run lemmy-ui and just watch the docker logs for it to say migrations completed successfully)

i think the lemmy.zip admins said they're still trying to work out a way to spin a dev instance on a dedicated server, but monyet already has a dev instance, so the db migrations can be tried first to ensure safety.

[–] oyenyaaow@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] zen@monyet.cc 1 points 1 year ago

it's alright 👌

[–] aerir@lemmy.aerir.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

monyet.cc is running 18.3 now? Scroll to bottom for that info. It took about 15-20mins for my personal instance, cuts of disk usage by like 10gb.

[–] zen@monyet.cc 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i'm still seeing 0.18.2. by the way, are you still using lemmy easy deploy on your rpi4?

[–] aerir@lemmy.aerir.xyz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, been working fine. Again this is just a 'fun' attempt, if it goes down - I can always jump to another instance edit - alamak, of course is 18.3 for me cos i'm viewing from my own instance.

[–] ruk_n_rul@monyet.cc -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

personal instance takes up more than 10gb? Walaowei 💀

[–] zen@monyet.cc 1 points 1 year ago

i think every up/down vote federated event is stored in the database for 6 months or something, so it's probably true that instance owners have access to that info

[–] zen@monyet.cc 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

if you are subscribed to lots of communities, it is not surprising.

[–] aerir@lemmy.aerir.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

35g total usage before 0.18.3 update. Size depends on the communities you have, I am sure monyet.cc disk use is quite high too.

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 1 points 1 year ago

After some discussion within the admin team, i think we'll have a wait and see approach in this since we're a small instance and any problem have a chance of driving newcomer away. Besides, we don't actually in critical need of the database optimisation in this new update, but the potential issue that might popup mean it will be a pita to keep track. Since World commited to the update we'll see if there's any real big issue coming up(like that security breach stuff after updated to 0.18 lol) before commit to the update.