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TLDR:
Windows 11 v24H2 and beyond will have Recall installed on every system. Attempting to remove Recall will now break some file explorer features such as tabs.

YT Video (5min)

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Original Github Issue

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[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 74 points 1 week ago

Ahahaha, holly fucking shit.

They literally added some OS in their spyware.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 74 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

Windows Debloat Tool:

https://github.com/LeDragoX/Win-Debloat-Tools

I run this on any new Win install. I also suggest Portmaster so you know where your data is going (I use it on Linux too!)

https://safing.io/

However, if you can, it is really worth switching to Linux. Linux is built as a tool by the people using the tool. Windows is making a product. Enough said.

If people would like to "try Linux before you buy," check out DistroSea. It spins up a virtual machine of whatever distro and flavour you choose to try.

https://distrosea.com/

There are a surprising and growing number of Linux compatible tools. Software is usually why people have a hard time switching. If you're dependent on Photoshop/Adobe, check out:

https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/davinciresolve

Gamers should check out:

https://www.protondb.com/

This site shows how well games run on Proton (compatibility tool) and people offer solutions to get them running if there's any snags.

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[–] DasAlbatross@lemmy.world 72 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Welp. Time to buy a NAS to back up all my stuff and rebuild this pc with Linux.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 63 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I remember them doing this with Internet Explorer back in the 90s.

"We can't remove this thing we don't want to remove! Look! It's hastily integrated with the OS! We can't remove it ever!"

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[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (21 children)

For years... well pretty much since I had a PC, I had a Windows partition. Why? Well because I (sadly) paid for the damn thing (damn OEM deals). Plus, I admit, sometimes they were things that only ran on Windows.

For few years now though, everything, literally, from the latest tech gadget to playing games to VR, works on Linux.

Few weeks ago I deleted the Windows partition. I didn't have to. I didn't boot on it for months. It didn't affect me.

Still, I now feel ... safer, more relaxed, coherent.

When I see shit like that, I feel even better!

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Explorer has had so many dependencies attached to it that if even one of them sneezes, the entire desktop environment crashes and has to restart.

Actually insane when you think about it. Why the hell is a file explorer the root process of the desktop??????

I've only ever forced stopped thunar once and it was because I was messing with some thumbnail settings. Naturally the rest of my system worked as normal, as well as the other thunar windows open lol.

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[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I won't upgrade past 10 anyways and if I can't run 10, back to Linux I go.

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 33 points 1 week ago (10 children)

You've got until late 2025 before 10 stops receiving security updates. I would not stay long after that.

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[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Looks like I picked the right year to switch to Linux on my primary pc.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Switching to Free Software is kind of like planting a tree: the best time was years ago (because you'd be over the learning curve). The second-best time is now.

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[–] cmeu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 1 week ago (5 children)

So.. how does this exist in corporate environments where PCI DSS is necessary? Is the government also going to have to deal with fallout from this?

I wonder if there will ever be a point where legislation dictates features from an os vendor.. we lost control of our hardware when they started forcing updates. I'm sure someone will hack a DLL or something to allow explorer to run but kill this component... But should we really need to hack our systems to protect ourselves from spying?

Inb4 Linux - I ran Slackware in the early 90s, and my server still runs a deb based distro.. but when I want to play Forza, I'm pretty limited with my choices, etc.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Microsoft: We're going to arbitrarily require TPM and SecureBoot and say that makes Windows 11 more secure even though that's a feature of your motherboard, not our operating system.

Also Microsoft: In Windows 11 the file explorer program depends on a program that periodically sends us screenshots of your screen.

So secure!

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[–] richardisaguy@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

how the fuck do you even begin making recall a dependency for explorer?

[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I can't say how. But I can guess why.

"Sorry, can't remove it. It's a system dependency"

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[–] notous@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (5 children)

screw Microsoft..i hope people will consider to switch to Linux

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[–] spookedintownsville@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I love winutil. Makes debloating windows a lot easier.

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[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (4 children)

So, I just bought a new laptop. It came with Windows 11. But anyways, I'm writing this comment from a freshly installed Bazzite Linux OS.

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