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[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 44 points 1 year ago (4 children)

For anyone wondering, salmon's pronounciation comes from the French word saumon. The French word comes from the Latin word salmo. When smarty pants scholars decided on how words would be spelled in the middle ages, they thought salmon should have an L in it since the Latin word does (screw with all those dumb people who don't know Latin!)

[–] atocci@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In case anyone else who isn't knowledgeable in Latin is curious as to what "salmo" means and why they decided to name a fish after it... Salmo means Salmon.

[–] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Salmon specifically, or just fish?

[–] atocci@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Cool, thanks a lox

[–] guy@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's a bunch of words spelt annoyingly because those bastard scholars decided they'd like to incorporate the historic roots of words, rather than the reality of words, in their spelling.

[–] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe they intended the pronunciation to change too, and for whatever reason only the spelling did.

[–] metallic_z3r0@infosec.pub 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah it turns out a whole bunch of English words are spelled more like a linguistic history lesson than anything approaching a useful system of phonetics. It might as well be pictographic with letters being helpful hints at this point. I wish there could be spelling reform in the anglosphere, but it's hard enough to get people to agree within any one of the majority English-speaking countries, let alone between them.

[–] muddi@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

There is a logic behind this, but you kinda have to be a linguistics nerd to know.

L and W are pretty similarly pronounced in many languages including English. Over time, this plus the fact that some might have difficulty speaking the language (still learning, have a lisp, low literacy, etc) leads to Ls becoming Ws in places.

Long story short, L took the L sometimes in English

[–] Nacktmull@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Seriously, it´s time we just start writing it Samon instead.

[–] AdlachGyfiawn@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do you guys pronounce the L in salmonella?

[–] TxTechnician@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Yes. When ppl correct me. I make a show of it.

No, it's:"saaa-L-mon". You uneducated twit!

[–] Flughoernchen@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So I just realized I never heard the word salmon out loud and only ever read it. Also I headpronounced it wrong all the time.

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 1 points 1 year ago

Apparently some country did not pronounce it as saemen, i'm from Malaysia and everyone just say Salmon instead, so chance is if you use the intended pronunciation in your area, no one will understand what you mean. Use what your country prefer i'd say.