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[–] Mango@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (7 children)

If I pay someone to do a sex crime to me, do I get in trouble or spare them the trouble?

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[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

Originally posted by @Fontasia@feddit.nl but the post didn't focus on this

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (11 children)

They're being ironic and edgy. Probably.

The question is only whether you consider ironic racism (in this case mocking 19th and 20th century "race science" with reversals of focus) to be racism regardless.

I don't think so, but there's also always elements of Poe's Law to consider. Not to mention that, for example, British and American racists literally said these things unironically about Germans, reaching fever pitches in WW1.

[–] Zomg@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago (8 children)

We all know words can't really express sarcasm or other underlying feelings or meanings very clearly. Without a /s your only able to assume if the they did or didn't actually mean that.

[–] bungalowtill@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

when you are with your peer group and use sarcasm, you probably also don’t label it as such.

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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Right, but there's enough social context going on to generally assume that stans for the philosophy of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engles probably don't actually consider Germans a form of untermensch.

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