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They are literally everywhere. I can't go any place without being watched. I just want some privacy. The most alarming part is that they put cameras on all entrances and exits so they can know who's entering or leaving. Why do they need to stalk me as I go about my day? The area I live in is overall pretty safe so I don't see the justification.

I have also noticed that some people actually feel safe where there are cameras. I get that people can get scared but I don't think creating a giant network of mass surveillance is the answer.

What is this dystopian future we have marched into.

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[–] Goun@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I'm guessing it's like this everywhere, but in my country, public cameras also have microphones. I feel like we don't think about that a lot.

[–] PennyRoyal@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I saw an article about Chinese EVs being equipped with overly-powerful LiDAR for self driving or something, which meant that in essence, they drive about the places burning out camera sensors. This got me thinking - The human eye takes a lot more energy to damage it than the average ccd chip, and a small cheap laser pointer is way more than enough to wreck one. Would it be possible to get a LiDAR unit and pop it on a remote control car or a drone or something?

There’s a group in London that call themselves the Bladerunners who go around wrecking the ULEZ cameras, they use a few interesting methods, but they’re all a bit too direct, such as sawzalling camera poles down. The LiDAR looks like a better option.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

I'd be worried about long term damage to humans. There also is the tinsey tiny issue of it being highly illegal.

The best think I can think of is pointing cameras out to everyone and making a fuss over it.

[–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 10 points 7 hours ago

I was literally in a CAVE the other day and I looked up and saw "under video surveillance". You can't even escape it 100 meters under the earth.

Yes it was a privately owned attraction. That's not an excuse.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 21 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

I adamantly maintain that the US needs an entire movement to enshrine the right to privacy to its citizens in the constitution.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 4 hours ago

Including medical privacy. The forced birthers can fuck right off about knowing my wife’s menstrual cycle.

[–] joewilliams007@kbin.melroy.org 14 points 10 hours ago

i dont know about your country, but in germany its regulated and in public places the footage is only allowed to be stored up to 72 hours

[–] Tazerface@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 hours ago

I started wearing a N95 for medical reasons a few years ago and this may help with the cameras.

I've never done a selfie or posted any photos of my face on social media. I have a driver's license but my country has privacy laws so that information shouldn't be available to any company that wants it. On the other hand, The War Amps has access so maybe stores do as well.

I feel naked without a ballcap. A few stores in my area have the cameras at eye-level. I look down when entering or exiting if I'm not wearing sunglasses.

I never use the self checkouts. These often have high def cameras inches from one's face. This is an effective way to connect a customer's face and their name by way of a credit or bank card.

I always use cash.

[–] Rikj000@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I feel the same,
to battle it I drive with my sun visors down,
all the time, even when it's dark.

I never voted for these camera's,
and driving with them down is not illegal,
but they successfully block the sight of most camera's.

[–] Tazerface@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 hours ago

Brilliant idea. I'm gonna try that.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly I don't mind the street cameras as much. Where I am they are less common and only really seen in busy intersections. What bothers me is when everyone and there dog puts up cameras. You see them everywhere from coffeeshops to libraries. You want to stay in a hotel? Cameras everywhere.

[–] SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Even worse imho is that many private residences now have cameras that record the whole street and other homes. No, they aren’t technically allowed to, but they all do. I have a neighbor across from me who just put up a ring doorbell that fully monitors my entire property (small town lot directly across). They now essentially create records of every time I come and go from my own house. And Amazon, and likely whomever else wants it, has full access to that information.

Not cool. These should be flat out banned. I don’t care if you want to have an overhead camera pointed only on your property, but that’s not what these things do at all.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

You could ask your neighbor to take it down. I don't think that's a crazy request if the camera makes you want to close all your blinds.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (3 children)

I'm looking into some of the anti camera clothing tbh. But it isn't fully effective, and it's expensive as hell for something that shouldn't be necessary in the firat place

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 10 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Anti camera clothing can make you more of a target, since you'll be wearing something that is less common, you'll be easier to pick out from a crowd. Sure, it will prevent flash photography from being able to identify you, but most of the time it a flash is not used when taking a photo.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Im just kinda hoping it'll be partially effective, even that tiny fraction.

I dress fairly distinctly anyway, so I'm not worried about standing out more, just sick of the idea of my face being recorded every fucking where.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I get it, I just wanted to clarify that anti camera clothing is mostly just anti camera flash technology.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I thought some worked by flashing infrared LEDs to overwhelm the cameras' sensors. AFAIK there are multiple varieties of camera repellant.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 hours ago

As far as I have seen they are only reflective, using the camera flash's light.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I just got to remember to stop staring into the cameras

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago

Maybe you would feel less exposed wearing a hat or cap or visor. It wouldn't make you invisible but you might find them less intrusive and eye-catching, since they're usually high up.

[–] iii@mander.xyz 1 points 10 hours ago

I've seen bright IR emittors, that can oversaturate some cameras

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 0 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Well, people tend to like to know who is entering their private property.

Or are there cameras watching who is entering your public parks and shit? I have cameras on my house, so people don't need to enter if it makes them uncomfortable, but it's handy for when people try to snoop when I am not around. Neighbours have stolen things in the past, even though it's a tight knit community.

Have also provided the footage to police to prove that said neighbor who stole stuff assaulted another neighbor in the street since the camera covers the driveway.

It only takes one asshole to justify cameras.

[–] Rolando@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Have also provided the footage to police to prove that said neighbor who stole stuff assaulted another neighbor in the street since the camera covers the driveway.

The problem is: the very next step is "why don't you just provide a live feed of your cameras to the police?" Maybe we can start with just part of the time, like when you're on vacation. Hey, we'll give you a great deal on your insurance... for the first year.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 2 points 6 hours ago

There is a camera on every corner of my neighborhood. That is far more than than having a doorbell camera for your house.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I don't have a problem with them putting a few cameras here and there. However, putting them everywhere is a bit crazy. Sure you can put a camera on a cash register or in key places in a parking garage but do you really need cameras on every area?

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee -2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Eh, it’s mostly a liability thing. Cameras make insurance companies very happy

[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

That doesn't excuse anything; it only illustrates what cancer the insurance industry is.

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

Where did I excuse anything?