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[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 158 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

2010: We want bigger batteries, they give us colorful phones

2015 We want bigger batteries, they give us 1mm thinner phones

2020 We want bigger batteries, they give us 5 cameras

2025 We want bigger batteries, they give us AI

Phones are a great example of the utter failure of capitalism to address what people actually need and want.

[–] Zerthax@reddthat.com 61 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

They also keep taking away features, like removable storage (microSD) and headphone jacks. There's a few phones that have them, but it gets more difficult to find them as time goes on.

[–] TriflingToad@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Create a problem, sell a solution. It's so annoying.
headphone jack -> sell bluetooth headphones
microSD -> sell cloud storage

[–] copd@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Late stage capitalism

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[–] PainInTheAES@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

*folds phone in half*

That's two batteries for the price of one.

[–] dditty@lemm.ee 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

More like two batteries for the price of two phones; foldables are still expensive AF

[–] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 weeks ago

Two half-size batteries for the price of three full-size phones coming right up

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I would like colourful phones back though, they were so much more fun compared to the sea of black/white/grey + ONE option in the blue-purple spectrum we have today.

Can we get that AND bigger batteries?...bigger colourful batteries even?

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[–] itsonlygeorge@reddthat.com 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Steve Jobs proved that consumers don’t actually know what they want until you tell them. And it’s the manufacturers job to tell them what they want and deliver it.

Since Apple doesn’t want a bigger battery that means no one gets a bigger battery.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

jobs was an ass. and smelled like it

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[–] superkret@feddit.org 90 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Literally just give us phones that can do what they could do 10 years ago, with modern batteries.

[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 70 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

this. put the sensors, audio jack, notification led, ir blaster back!

And fuck off with the ai!

[–] OpenHammer6677@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

LED notifications and physical keyboards. I miss my Blackberry

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

God me too. I feel like such a luddite whenever I bring this up. Touch screen keys even with swipe to text are terrible

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[–] nitefox@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I just want both the Touch ID and the Face ID on my damn phone…

[–] burgersc12@mander.xyz 9 points 3 weeks ago

I want it to be like the glory days of the Note 8/9. You want a FP reader? Its on the back and it works really well! You want Facial recognition? How about iris scans as well! Notification LED, aux jack, and a Pen built right in! Not enough storage, pop in a MicroSD. Only thing that was missing was easily swapped batteries! It all went downhill from here imo

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[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

My ideal would basically be a modern version of the lg v20 - give me that removable battery, headphone jack, microsd slot, etc and just give me the current gen on chipset, screen, camera, etc.

No AI, no preloaded nonsense I can't get rid of, I don't care that it could be 0.000004mm thinner without the jack.

Its never been about what the consumer wants, its about driving "features" that will make more profits.

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[–] x00z@lemmy.world 50 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

It feels like yesterday some guy was arguing against me here on Lemmy about my personal choice of wanting a longer battery life.

WELL LOOK AT ME NOW BRO

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No bro, it's totally better to get 5-6 hours of battery and AI cause like it's so incredible bro

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[–] afk_strats@lemmy.world 36 points 3 weeks ago

People have been asking for thicker phones with more battery for years. Wth

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (6 children)

I think the battery system that's best for everyone would be user-replaceable batteries. That way you can have an extra battery on hand to swap in as needed, or even extra-capacity batteries that make your phone a little thicker for people who are okay with that.

Those of us who do actually prefer thinner, lighter phones can still have them (maybe with a slight increase in thickness to accommodate the attachment mechanisms). Plus bigger batteries are a huge waste of resources if the capacity isn't going to be used.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

that was a thing in the early days. most clamshells had em and a few flat panels (called candybars)

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[–] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

When I replaced my 5 year old phone the only two benefits I saw was OLED screen (never going without again) and the battery life going from maybe a day to like 40 hours

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[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 23 points 3 weeks ago

Oh wow shocking, people actually cared more about usability than trashy feature? That's unheard of

[–] potentiallynotfelix@lemmy.fish 23 points 3 weeks ago

I like AI and my phone to be separate. Chatgpt is just an app, it shouldn't be a core feature

[–] morgunkorn@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I don't get what those companies try to achieve by automating writing (by spewing statistically probable prose), reading (by badly summarizing text cobbled from excerpts without the ability to make any sense of it), art, photography, music, all standardized to the lowest common denominator.

I'm not buying a new device that will try to impose any of this hype. For now, Apple has decided to "punish" the users in the European Union by holding the Apple Intelligence features hostage. FINE BY ME!

edit: typo/phrasing

[–] accideath@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Yea. There are very few machine learning driven features that would actually improve my life in a meaningful way. I feel much more „punished“ by the omission of iPhone mirroring on mac than any Apple Intelligence feature.

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[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 19 points 3 weeks ago (20 children)

Do people here actually use AI? And if so…for what?

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I use AI for what Google used to be able to do: Finding answers to simple questions. Usually about tech but sometimes movies or music. Like how do I add a physical volume to LVM, or what are the specs of this little fan model? Or who was that actress in a movie about kids buried in a collapsed building? Things like that…

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[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

How about making a phone that's a whole millimeter thicker just to make the glass thick and strong enough that it won't break if you drop it?

Great idea! Unless of course the replacement of parts and broken phones is a core part of the business model.

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[–] ef9357@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Can we please stop calling LLMs artificial intelligence?

[–] model_tar_gz@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (6 children)

No. Strictly and technically speaking, LLMs absolutely fall under the category of AI. You’re thinking of AGI, which is a subset of AI, and which LLMs will be a necessary but insufficient component of.

I’m an AI Engineer; I’ve taken to, in my circles, calling AI “Algorithmic Intelligence” rather than “Artificial Intelligence.” It’s far more fitting term for what is happening. But until the Yanns and Ngs and Hintons of the field start calling it that, we’re stuck with it.

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

It would be mice to have better battery life.

2008 and onwards.

Edit: was so confused about the answers til I noticed the error :-p

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[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 12 points 3 weeks ago

No! I don't care about battery! I want to become more dependent on advertising companies to arrange my daily life!

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

I barely use my phone as anything more than a glorified pager. I don't need fucking AI.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

yeah but you can't set inflate your stock value based on hype about battery life.

people forget that these features aren't for users. it's for idiots who invest in ridiculous shit hoping it to be the next big thing.

[–] lickmygiggle@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Give me a phone that’s 1.5 cm thick (before the camera bump) and lasts two days and I’ll buy fucking 10 of them.

JUST STOP. MAKING. THEM. THINNER.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 weeks ago

Smartphone buyers care more about that thing that they've been begging for, for years? You don't say... And mobile phone manufacturers are again and still going to ignore what people actually want in favor of expensive and non functional vaporware, like they always do?

You don't say!

[–] JordanfireStar@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

They're pushing AI so hard but most people just see it as a gimmicky thing. The only people who care are the investors.

[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I just bought two brand new three year old phones to replace the identical broken ones we currently have because the current models have less functionality for more than we paid for these.

To get the same functionality cost twice as much.

And we still get three years warranty..

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Also I want my OS to be an actual OS with root access. I want Linux in particular.

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[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I really hope the AI hype dies off

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[–] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

The features customers actually want vs what the shareholders tell them they want.

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