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[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 10 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Engineers: we can't make transistors smaller because they wouldn't work because of those quantum effects

Different engineers: but what if we use quantum effects as the basis to make smaller transistors work

[–] LavenderDay3544@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

The idea of a QFET or QTFET isn't particularly new.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 31 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

to potentially enable ultra-low-power AI applications.

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[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 16 points 12 hours ago

You ever feel like everyone in the world is taking crazy pills except for you?

[–] Exec@pawb.social 20 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

nanoscale transistors

Sooo the same transistors just even smaller?

[–] credo@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

This is the way.

[–] Emi@ani.social 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I thought they made them so small that they would interfere with each other if they made them any smaller.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The article mentions this, and says these new transistors actually take advantage of quantum tunnelling at those small scales to switch the transistors on and off. Usually that's accomplished by charging up a conductive channel in a traditional MOSFET like a capacitor.

The disadvantage seems to be that these transistors can only control very tiny currents. They currently lack enough ass to control much else.

[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The disadvantage seems to be that these transistors can only control very tiny currents. They currently lack enough ass to control much else.

Not familiar with this particular paper but transistors are good at acting as switches for higher powered loads so I wonder if these ultra tiny ones can be used to power on slightly less tiny versions which can handle larger circuits.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 5 points 11 hours ago

That's basically how IGBTs in power electronics work, in stuff like trains and electric cars. It's a sensitive, easily activated voltage-driven MOSFET driving a larger BJT transistor in a chain.

Also how Darlington pairs work. So, yeah, maybe they could do all the computation at that level and then cascade the output through larger transistors to talk to the outside world.