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[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 1 points 2 minutes ago

might be preaching to the choir a little bit

[–] chris@lem.cochrun.xyz -1 points 42 minutes ago (1 children)

Doesn't not having sex do that a little better tho? Like i totally get the point, but also, having sex gives chance of baby right? So, don't do it unless you ready? Maybe I'm wrong.

[–] BaldManGoomba@lemmy.world 1 points 10 minutes ago

Sex is a basic human need. Having a child isn't. You need to know you are compatible with your partner sexually or it will lead to tons of strife in a relationship. So not having sex unless you are asexual or a version of it isn't an option.

[–] JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee 7 points 3 hours ago

Birth control is nothing more than a form of medical technology. People against birth control and abortion(also medical technology) are Medical Luddites.

They must be afraid of losing their jobs at crisis pregnancy centers, or be afraid they won't be allowed to shame young single mothers anymore.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 29 points 11 hours ago

The worst part is draconic abortion bans also hurt those trying to have children. No one's getting recreational third trimester abortions. You picked out a name, painted the nursery. Late term abortions are tragedies to all parties, and only ever happen because of life threatening conditions.

I wouldn't want to plan a child when any complication could mean death.

[–] potustheplant@feddit.nl 14 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] starbrite@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Ikr? Lemmy is 99% stuff like this, when really all i want to do on here is laugh

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 points 43 minutes ago

Yes. It gets tiring. There aren't even breaks in between "zomg! Look what trump and friends are doing! We are so much better" memes over and over and over and over.

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 33 points 13 hours ago

They know, that's the point.

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I know I'm probably wrong here, and I'm willing to be better informed, but I don't like the phrasing of abortion as mere "birth control," as if it were equal to methods that prevent conception or implantation.

Do people really feel it's not a different sort of act, or would people be comfortable using abortion as their sole means of birth control (if it were safe and inconsequential to the woman)? And yes, I understand that the morning after pill is something of a gray area.

Also yes, I am a Christian. But I understand that there are good reasons for abortion remaining legal.

[–] Funkytom467@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Well depends what you mean by birth control... is it a way to prevent pregnancy or children?

Since birth is in the name i'd say the term is better suited for referring to anything preventing the birth of a children. But what the term refers to has no barring on what's happening.

It never meant people don't make a difference. Any reasonable women knows and feel the difference.

The fact it's less safe and has worse effects on your health is just another way we realize how serious an abortion is. It will never be inconsequential even if it was safe.

Please do not to trust anyone who says people disagree with this. They all have a political reason to lie.

[–] Sabre363@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Abortion is, by definition, a form of birth control, but I don't think most people would ever consider it to be equal to other forms of controlling birth. However, let's not forget that for a lot of people abortion is quite literally the only birth control they may have access to, and even that access may come at huge risk. There are often family, social, religious (this is the big one), or cultural pressures that get in the way of accessing contraceptives until it is too late.

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

Absolutely understand, and while it's hard for me to believe that anyone doesn't know about condoms, a religious person who chooses abortion over condoms really makes me scratch my head.

But I guess you mean a kid living in a "religious" household. Man, I wish there was a way to communicate to kids that feeling your old enough for sex means feeling you're old enough to make good decisions about preventing pregnancy.

I mean frankly the whole thing's just too damn big for me. My heart goes out to everyone who finds themselves with these kinds of choices.

[–] Sabre363@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 hours ago

Yeah, I was getting at living in a religious household, but I can say from experience that it goes far deeper than that. There is way too often a toxic and parasitic mentality that constantly says things like birth control are evil and aren't to be talked about. When that kind of thinking permeates every aspect of one's life or community, it can make it difficult, humiliating, or outright dangerous for people to seek out things like contraceptives.

Also, I know this thinking doesn't hold true of all religious folks, and it's refreshing to see someone genuinely curious and asking questions rather than judging automatically, so thank you.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 3 points 8 hours ago

You're making some huge assumptions about the quality of sex and health education that those kids have had access to. It's easy to point a finger and say, well you should be more responsible, but the reality is that adolescents are still learning and developing. So even with great education, they make bad decisions. They won't have adult brains until their early to mid 20s. And there's no reason why those decisions should ruin lives, when modern medicine can resolve the dilemma in minutes.

In other words, you're making an argument for much better and more widely available sex and health education. Which religious types are likely to oppose. Can't have it both ways- either the kids are fully informed and made an error, or their guardians failed them and set them on a track with a veil of ignorance.

[–] Naadan@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 hours ago

The folk wanting to restrict it probably don't want to respect autonomy too much.

[–] lemmus@szmer.info -2 points 4 hours ago

Not so funny.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

You still are a wage slave paying rent to a landed lord.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 2 points 2 hours ago

Better than committing another soul to the same fate.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago

And mutually beneficially so does UBI et al

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 hours ago

Republicans:

Ban it

[–] steel_nomad@lemmy.world -1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Well, specifically women, but yes that sign is not wrong.

[–] kabi@lemm.ee 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

Well, specifically women

How do you figure?

[–] steel_nomad@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

....Are you being purposely obtuse?

[–] kabi@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

....Are you being purposely obtuse?

Do you think an unwanted pregnancy doesn't affect the biological father's life in any way?

[–] Simbomba@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

It's probably due to the fact that the majority of child bearing people are womem. Wouldnt want to haphazardly sum up many groups of people with one word but I could see the viewpoint

[–] mEEGal@lemmy.world -2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Memes don't have to be jokes

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 11 hours ago

Name another unfunny one so I can back you on that