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The Biden administration has moved to forgive $4.7 billion in U.S. loans to Ukraine as part of a $9.4 billion loan package authorized by Congress in April to support Ukraine’s government during its war with Russia.

State Department spokesperson Matthew Miller confirmed the decision, which Congress could still block.

The Senate is set to vote on a disapproval motion introduced by Senator Rand Paul, though bipartisan support for Ukraine remains strong.

President Biden is expediting aid ahead of his term’s end, amid concerns President-elect Trump may restrict future support.

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[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 82 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The Senate is due to vote later on Wednesday on a motion of disapproval of loan forgiveness for Ukraine put forward by Republican Senator Rand Paul, a frequent critic of U.S. support for Ukraine.

Rand Paul? Is this the fellow who advocated for taking horse medication against COVID?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 63 points 3 days ago

Also a noted Russian bootlicker, just like the incoming administration.

He also made the bizarre argument that Eric Garner was killed by overzealous regulation of cigarette sales rather than, you know, a violent cop.

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Is this the fellow who advocated for taking horse medication against COVID?

In other words: an average Republican

[–] Freefall@lemmy.world 35 points 3 days ago

Help them win before we change teams!

[–] PlainSimpleGarak@lemmings.world 11 points 3 days ago

Any chance of mortgage loan forgiveness? Just sayin'.

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Dude what about the student loan forgiveness you got filibustered on?

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

... really? They're still being fought in the courts. Like, what the fuck commentary is this? "What about the thing you've been trying to do this whole time?" Yeah, they're still doing that.

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I see that they are fighting for PSLF forgiveness in courts.

Not the broad 20k forgiveness for all borrowers.

Do you have information otherwise? I'm interested in any discourse I may have missed on the matter.

[–] Glemek@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Supreme court shot down the 20k for pell grant recipients and 10k for non pell grant recipients plan, and basically said that at that scale should require congress. So all the smaller programs have been calibrated to try to survive the court battles.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biden_v._Nebraska

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why didn't Biden simply stack the Supreme Court with more justices? The conservative court presided by John Roberts has also shown zero compunctions for undermining the cornerstones of American legality. So why is the Biden admin playing along? Why are they constantly feigning weakness at every opportunity to be strong? Are they weak or simply apathetic?

Biden has been granted Kingly powers and impunity. He has done nothing with them. Etiquette and decorum are window dressing of the past. He is failing America at this most critical juncture, and it's 100% incumbent on citizens to call him out for this level of capitulation.

[–] Glemek@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I don't know that biden truly had the ability to stack the court, any justice he wanted to add would have to get through the senate. Which was only very narrowly held by the dems, and a pretty minimal amount of defections would have scuttled the plan entirely while also having broken the taboo. I don't actually trust biden either, so the world in which biden destroys the democratic norms and seizes power in that way also is a really bad situation.

[–] Batman@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Lol when this started I was a fine candidate for forgiveness. Now my income has increased and they lowered the bar so I'm disqualified. Really glad I'm on this side but it will be 5 years before I can pay off what would have been forgiven. The ceiling is a joke anywhere that isn't a rural environment.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 days ago

Means testing is just a poverty trap. My family personally earned a bit more money and the state of California now said "Cool, you no longer qualify for free health insurance, you gotta pay."

And while it's not a lot, its a few dollars a month, it has less options. Not even medical transportation in the rural area we live in.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But American students? Fuck em. Raise their interest to finance this.

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Biden has also repeatedly forgiven student loans.

[–] cheers_queers@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago

the Biden hate is getting tired. sure, he's not the greatest president of all time, but he did a damn good job considering the mess he had to clean up. i can't imagine how it feels handing the keys back to this traitor

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Does anyone know why Biden has the authority to do this? It seems more up to Congress to decide if a debt is forgiven overnight. "Pen and the Purse" is what my social studies said every class.

[–] deltapi@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Read the article if you want your question answered.

[–] Vanshaj@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Am I going to be down voted if I say this is stupid.