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    [–] lastunusedusername2@sh.itjust.works 49 points 1 day ago (9 children)

    This was made by someone who has never used either

    [–] needanke@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

    Besides missing dependencies or repositories for more nice software this kinda closely matches my experience though.

    (Ignoring winget, becaust it is not really the mainstream way to install windows software)

    What is your specific issue with this?

    [–] lastunusedusername2@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Mostly that this hasn't been my experience with Windows for like 20 years.

    They might as well bitch about dropping their punch cards.

    [–] needanke@feddit.org 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    I still (have to) download scetchy executables on Windows when I want to install most programms, while on debian I can install most programs via apt and a few repositories. Even when it's not a standard repo I still prefer it over random executables because while the security is just as bad at least I get updates without having to open the program itself.

    But what resonated with me most have been the restarts for updates. Happened way to often that I wanted to stop working but cant just shut down windows without updates and the accompanying reboots. (If I don't check up in between to decrypt the disk on startups it'll just sit there and run out the battery and I have to do the restarts on the next workday). On debian I just klick the power button, it hibernates (or I shut it down if I'm in the mood) and os updates are completely seperate from that.

    [–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    What sketchy executables are you downloading?

    What makes downloading steam from valve more sketchy than allowing a Linux repo to run arbitrary code as root on your machine for every single one of thousands of pieces of software maintained by strangers?

    [–] iopq@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

    I remember going to source forge to download MPC-BE

    Later found out that they were adding adware to executables

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    [–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    What the actual fuck are you smoking?

    At least update this meme to the 2010s if you won't go to the 2020s

    [–] ObstreperousCanadian@lemmy.ca 49 points 1 day ago (16 children)

    I haven't had a DLL issue in Windows in like 20 years.

    [–] twinnie@feddit.uk 89 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (15 children)

    Let’s not cherrypick scenarios to try and pretend Linux is easier than Windows. Most normal people are nervous interacting with a GUI pop-up that gives them two options, never mind putting them into a terminal window where they could seriously fuck up their machine. What about clicking the download link on a webpage, clicking next a few times and having them software on your machine, compared to having to build something from GitHub (how many people here have never had to do that?).

    [–] iopq@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

    Most normal people only ever use the browser. Even image or video editing is niche for the average person

    [–] abfarid@startrek.website 47 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    This applies to pretty much all "Linux good, Win/MacOS bad" memes. I just assume that people either aren't really serious about them and it's just tongue in cheek, or they don't have any contact with regular people.

    I used to work as a(n assistant to the) sysadmin and the things I got called over never stopped to amaze. For instance, there was a case when software was updated on the work machines and I got called because some lady couldn't use Adobe Acrobat. "It is asking me something, I don't know what". I come over and it's just a TOS Accept/Decline window.

    Some people do not understand computers to an extent that they can lock up in a state of confusion when a button has been moved 100px in any direction from its usual position.

    [–] Ofiuco@lemmy.cafe 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    or they don't have any contact with regular people.

    This gets my vote, the memes are so disconnected from reality they feel forced and not funny

    [–] oo1@lemmings.world 0 points 16 hours ago

    Naah, i think they're just ragebaiting all the MS fanboys.

    It works too judging by all the shit in this forum.

    The meme isn't funny; but some of the reactions it provokes are hilarious. Though some of them are obviously counter-ragebait too. "Akshually i never have to restart to update windows since 2008". :)

    [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    Most normal people are nervous interacting with a GUI pop-up that gives them two options, never mind putting them into a terminal window where they could seriously fuck up their machine

    Maybe this is a problem that we should be addressing, rather than just making technology more of a black box, and raising generations of people who have no fucking concept of how any of it works.

    [–] NoFun4You@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Lots of people don't care enough to learn

    [–] oo1@lemmings.world 0 points 16 hours ago

    Those that do probably don't go to linuxmemes though.

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    [–] aski3252@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (8 children)

    Unless you have a system without a GUI, you don't need to open a terminal in order to update or install stuff. There is a GUI for that. And no, you don't need to build stuff from GitHub for normal user stuff..

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    [–] tsugu@slrpnk.net 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

    Open terminal

    See whether the app is in my distro's repos, flathub, or snapcraft (It's not)

    Go on the internet, search up the app's name

    Download the AppImage (might be a virus)

    LibFuse2 is not installed (fuck me)

    Install LibFuse2

    Install Gearlever to integrate AppImage into my desktop

    I can finally launch the app

    [–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (5 children)

    > doesn't use arch/nix

    "why cant i find my package in the repos?"

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    [–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    Fuck, I hate AppImages so much. Never heard of gearlever, thanks i hope this helps a lot.

    Edit: Ok Gearlever is pretty great! Now I can finally open Heroic normally. That pissed me off for so long.

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    [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 54 points 1 day ago (21 children)

    No restart require on Linux is a joke, right? Because I get updates that require restarts as often as I get them on Windows when updating Mint.

    [–] Camille@lemmy.ml 63 points 1 day ago (14 children)

    Unless you're updating the kernel itself, there is little chance you actually need to reboot your machine. Just restarting whatever service or application you're using should do the trick.

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    [–] kekmacska@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

    i love when i need to search for dll files

    [–] dan@upvote.au 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    WinGet: Am I a joke to you?

    [–] brianary@startrek.website 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    WinGet, choco, scoop, &c, they all have strengths and weaknesses, which is why I had to write this: https://github.com/brianary/scripts/blob/main/Update-Everything.ps1

    It's also why I use Linux at home.

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    [–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Winget-ui is great, except Microsoft hasn't figured out to conceptually make two installs of the same product get treated the same -- absolutely pathetic that if you install VLC from their website you can never ever ever use Winget VLC without uninstalling the other.

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    [–] hinterlufer@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (12 children)

    somepackage requires otherpackage version >10.1.79

    otherpackage is already at latest version

    Have fun compiling it yourself and messing up what is managed by the package manager and what's not. And don't forget that the update might break some other package along the way

    [–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

    NixOS solved this. You can install both deps from two different channels.

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    [–] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

    get an antivirus that actually works and then use either policy plus or group policy to delay windows updates

    Delay feature updates by 365 days

    Delay quality updates by 30 days

    semi-annual channel

    Disable preview builds

    then use O&O shutup10 ++ to disable the bullshit and you're golden.

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