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[–] RoyBattyButCoward@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I miss having a thousand different cables to keep track of /s

really, all we need is the companies to start packing those laptops with thunderbolt3 or equivalent USB-C (USB 4). I love the old ports, but they were unnecessary. I'd rather the industry finally takes on the open thunderbolt standard and we're all good to go. With 10 thunderbolt ports you have 10 HDMI, or 10 USB, or 10 Ethernet, or 10 headphone jacks, or 10 RJ45 or whatever you need + PCIe tunneling.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What is really unnecessary is to have the ability to transfer 20GB/s from your mouse or keyboard.

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

If you have multiple ports driven off the same internal hub, they will share bandwidth.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

You still need hardware significantly more complex than would be otherwise needed for a device for which USB 2.0 speeds were already much more than required.

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

I don't really understand how USB stuff works (what is the difference between a hub, interface, and controller?) but from what I've seen I think a hub supporting 20gbps would probably be in the 5-15$ range and probably not larger than a few centimeters

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[–] scholar@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Assuming you have the adapter for each of them

[–] atocci@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago

The intent isn't to adapt the old cables to a new port, but to just make all the cables USBC / Thunderbolt.

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[–] technotony@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The desktop equivalent is "What happened to all my PCIe expansion slots?!"

(Note: processor PCIe lane count has gone up, used to be like 16 from CPU, 4 from chipset, since a GPU didn't need an x1x6 in terms of bandwidth - see SLI/crossfire. These days, it's just that many lanes go to M.2, with each using up to 4 lanes - vs having 6 SATA driven off the chooser)

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[–] Horsey@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

to be fair, the bandwidth of all the ports on the bottom laptop probably fit in 1 (maaaaybe 2? Just spitballing here) Thunderbolt 5 ports depending how fast the ethernet port is. BTW, why would you want a port that isn't reversible like USB C lol...

[–] Tarzan9192@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago

Look how they massacred my boy.

[–] SleafordMod@feddit.uk 68 points 1 day ago

And there's the soldered RAM and storage, and glued-in or screwed-in battery...

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 82 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (28 children)

I'm no Apple fanboy (never owned a product of theirs and never will) but to be fair, those two USB-C ports can do everything the old, removed ports can do and more. The real crime here is not putting enough of them on the laptop.

Edit: The only port I'll lament the removal of is the headphone jack. USB-C headphones are rare, adapters get lost, and bluetooth headphones compress the audio and have input lag. Everything else can go, though, and won't be missed. (Okay fine ethernet can stay too.)

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

um the headphone jack went nowhere, what are you talking about????

2024 16" macbook pro: https://support.apple.com/en-ca/121554

  • Charging and Expansion
  • SDXC card slot
  • HDMI port
  • 3.5 mm headphone jack
  • MagSafe 3 port
  • Three Thunderbolt 5 (USB-C) ports with support for:
    • Charging
    • DisplayPort
    • Thunderbolt 5 (up to 120Gb/s)
    • Thunderbolt 4 (up to 40Gb/s)
    • USB 4 (up to 40Gb/s)
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[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 39 points 1 day ago (23 children)

As someone who daily drives a laptop for work and does field work on server facilities, finding a modern replacement that has both a RJ45 port and square USB (USB-A?) ports available on both sides, has been a pain in the hassle.

And I'm not even crying over the loss of VGA any longer. That one I can live without.

[–] B16_BR0TH3R@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Solution: Dell Latitude laptop or Dell DA310 hockey puck adapter.

[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 19 hours ago

At least those are still here in my country, so yeah. Might be an option.

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