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[-] 001100010010@lemmy.dbzer0.com 81 points 11 months ago
[-] glibg10b@lemmy.ml 41 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's a good article, but the title is misleading.

The FBI paid a company to find a few people's locations, and they were under the impression that the company would use in-house software, not NSO spyware.

At no point did the FBI use NSO spyware. Riva Networks did.

[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 42 points 11 months ago

You can argue its misleading but I disagree. Outsourcing bad behavior to a third party doesn't remove culpability on your part. This is all to common these days and allows both parties to point fingers at each other while nobody faces any responsibility for breaking the law, violating people's rights, and/or unethical behavior.

The FBI just using assumptions and impressions on methodologies used by the company they contracted with is no excuse when they could have asked how the work was going to be performed. Incompetence is no excuse either.

[-] glibg10b@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago

I'm not saying the FBI should be excused for this. I'm saying the title is factually wrong and is designed to provoke attention

[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Even with that I think it's debatable. They were employed by the FBI at the time of usage so it isn't totally inaccurate to say it was the FBI doing it and we don't know what knowledge the FBI guys had of the company's methods.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago

The good news is the FBI cut the relationship. I'm not sure if that was because of public pressure or there desire to do the right thing

[-] itchy_lizard@feddit.it 16 points 11 months ago

At no point did the US military torture hostages in those blacksites.

Not sure it matters. The responsibility still lies with the org that paid.

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 15 points 11 months ago

Thats plausible deniablity for you.

[-] corrupted@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

Still funny though

[-] Ricaz@lemmy.ml 37 points 11 months ago

I wonder how many phones are still vulnerable to Pegasus exploits. Scary that it almost everyone has been vulnerable at some point.

[-] 001100010010@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 11 months ago

iOS now has a "Lockdown Mode" which is supposed to be more secure against pegasus, but can break some functionality, but then again, it's a closed source OS so you'll have to take their word for it.

[-] vd1n@lemmy.ml 14 points 11 months ago

Yeah... Not to burst your bubble but I don't think security even exists. At least in USA.

[-] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago
[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago
[-] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

Why should Reddit have something to do with "Security in China"?

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 23 points 11 months ago
[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago

You should've changed the van to say FBI

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

I agree, but I was using a website meme generator on my phone.

[-] drwho@beehaw.org 12 points 11 months ago
[-] frozen@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 7 points 11 months ago

Good article, and not only for the ITYSL reference, lmao.

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago

"you know what's driving me nuts? It could literally be any one of us..."

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago
[-] talentedkiwi@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago
[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago

This is why we need transparency

this post was submitted on 01 Aug 2023
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