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Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.


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From Prof. Eliot Jacobson:

Wow! Wow! Wow!

North Atlantic sea surface temperature anomalies are going vertical again. And yes, I needed to extend the y-axis.

Yesterday's temperature of 24.49°C (76.08°F) was 4.2σ above the 1991-2020 mean. The previous high for July 17 was 23.71°C (74.68°F) in 2020.

https://twitter.com/EliotJacobson/status/1681321023306874880

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[–] GCostanzaStepOnMe@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Honestly how long do we have until we experience massive fishing and crop failures everywhere?

[–] Ertebolle@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

On a planetary scale, I don't think we're going to have trouble feeding ourselves, it's just that a) meat is going to become thoroughly unaffordable and b) an awful lot of crop production is going to shift towards the poles, creating many a geopolitical clusterfuck along the way.

Disaster movies are too obvious, and too tidy; it's going to be a century of the average human's life getting just a bit more hellish every year. Acutely hellish for some, barely hellish at all for others, but basically, we're going to slowly roll back most of the improvements in human welfare over the past few centuries until we've got starving serfs all over the place and plagues and famines and natural disasters absolutely flattening entire countries for years at a time.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Very fucking soon.

You ever watch disaster movies? They're only 2-2.5hrs average.

Well, imagine this is a movie. The 100+ years of data we ignored was that "secret file" that was just discovered. The new high temps are the geeky science guy yelling "oh shit!"

Remember what happens right after that? Very, very quick collapse. Food disaster, heat disaster, weather events and oxygen decrease in our atmosphere.

We'll either starve, boil, suffocate or kill each other trying to survive.

I think it's within a couple years. Not decades that is typically reported.

[–] Boermund@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is this going to effect hurricane season in the way I think it will?

[–] majcurve@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yep, but for a shining moment in time, humanity created a lot of value for shareholders!