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[–] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Isn't that Grant from ACW? Not american, but how does that work with a union general and MAGA?

[–] Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well you see, in order to throw America away for a traitor felon, you have to brain damaged enough to believe the union busters lies about helping unions.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Wrong use of union there but good spirit

Union in the context of their comment means "The North" during the Civil War, its the United States (Union) of America vs Confederate States (Confederates) of America

They were pointing out how contradicting it is to have a Yank general (specifically Unconditional Surrender Grant, a PRESIDENT who fought for the North) is their PCP while being a MAGAt (usually pro-confederates)

Oh I gotcha, I totally misread that, thanks.

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[–] Chivera@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Yeah sure the daughters fell for the propaganda

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (5 children)

My dad is hardcore conservative, identifies as independent. My mom was Democratic, she's now hardcore Republican to reflect the political views of her 4th husband.

I want so badly to just not see any family for Thanksgiving because their political views are so dramatically opposed to mine, but that just doesn't feel right in my heart.

Everyone I love supports things I'm ethically and morally against, but shit dude, my circle of people is already so small. I want to have family and friends in my life, but I also want to surround myself with people who share my values. Unfortunately I have to choose one over the other, and that feels dirty.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Going no contact or limited contact is a personal decision everyone has to decide for themselves. I'm lucky enough to have boomer parents who aren't hateful/gullible conservatives.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It is a personal choice, but it also enables fascism. It is important that we not ignore this.

People say "what would you do to stop the Nazis" and in America, we can't even bring ourselves to do the very minimum to socially isolated Nazis while that is still a viable option. How's it going to go if we need to take up arms against them? How many people are going to say "I know my father is marching with brownshirts who lynch gay people, but I'm pretty sure he isn't actually holding the rope."

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Personally, I'd cut them off as I'm diametrically opposed to fascism and bigotry. But I get that family relationships can be complicated, and if people are dependent on those Trump supporters cutting them off really isn't a viable option. The reality is we're all more isolated than ever, and without some kind of support system, cutting off the few people some have connections with might end up doing more harm than good. We need stronger communities built around opposing the coming tidal wave of crushing hatred - much easier said than done.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

Doesn't have to be all or nothing. Maybe you can go every second one. Or go and if it comes up and gets heated you could leave?

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 4 points 1 day ago

I'm not from the US, but my mother held some questionable craycray views for a long time, but I only fully realized & saw the extend of it after the refugee crisis in 2014. I tried to somehow bear with her, but in the end, also for some other reasons, I had to cut her out of my life, simply for my own sake. I'm rather alone than surrounded by toxic people.

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[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (7 children)

As much as I want to boycott my parents thanksgiving dinner, my dad is almost 80 and I only got so many days left to even hang out with him. Plus my mom is cool so I got that going for me.

[–] FeloniousPunk 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My dad is almost 80 and a Trump supporter. Fuck that guy. Let him die lonely.

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[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

If more women had held men accountable for this shit over the last 8~ years he wouldn't have been reelected. Don't tolerate these POS'.

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 4 points 1 day ago

Doesn't sound sad to me 🤷‍♂️

[–] swag_money@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago
[–] thinkyfish@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think this story is fake. Its too perfect and his response is too sensible to be a real person. too much irony here to bear.

[–] Lokisan@lemmy.zip 1 points 21 hours ago

Yeah looks like ragebait. And a pretty effective one.

[–] Breve@pawb.social 7 points 1 day ago

If your children are going to disown you over who you voted for, then don't tell them who you voted for! Family harmony restored, simple as that!

But no, they need that persecution complex to solidify the false reality they've built in their minds.

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I have to ask, are there conservatives in PDX?

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Sure. Oregon was initially established by white supremacists. It has an old culture of racism deep in its bones.

Plently of racist shitheads all over, even in liberal enclaves like portland.

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