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65 per cent of Canadians say Canada is accepting too many legal immigrants. That figure, less than a year ago in February, was just 50 per cent. In March 2019, only 35 per cent of Canadians held that view.

Background:

Based on this poll https://acs-metropolis.ca/studies/negative-sentiment-towards-immigrants-in-canada-is-on-the-rise/

Has an n of 1612. 50% admit not having a good understanding of immigration policy.

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[–] Templa@beehaw.org 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Comments on /r/Canada are so fucking weird. Someone literally said "I was an immigrant turned citizen and I support this". It's like: now that you have your citizenship you aren't considered an immigrant anymore? Wow.

Edit changes "I am" for "I was"

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago (5 children)

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/221026/dq221026a-eng.htm

???? 23% of all Canadians are first-generation immigrants. Permanent Residents are legal immigrants. 48% probably includes some of these immigrants that want to deport themselves. What are y'all smoking?

[–] OminousOrange@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And most Canadians are descended from immigrants who arrived in the past century.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Like 98% if you extend that to two centuries.

We're an immigrant nation, which is arguably how we've kept a lid on xenophobia until now. (And still are, probably; they chose the most doomer stats for the headline)

[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago

It's due to the housing crisis. If we had the infrastructure to support the influx of immigrants, Canadians wouldn't be so opposed to them.

[–] bbbhltz@beehaw.org 4 points 1 week ago

Now's that's the title of a study I want to read:

What are y'all smoking?

Abstract: Akrasia + Social Media = WTF

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm guessing it's almost entirely within the 70% that "just" have immigrant grandparents.

[–] Someone@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm not for mass deportation, but if you're an immigrant yourself and you're calling for this I think you should set a good example and take off.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] bbbhltz@beehaw.org -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If 'Fuck Nat. po.' = True, why did you post it?

[–] bbbhltz@beehaw.org 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because I happened to be reading it and it is ok to read and share things from sources you don't necessarily like.

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What makes you want to support the source if you do not like the source?

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 week ago

Presumably, the content was interesting enough to make that sacrifice.

[–] bbbhltz@beehaw.org 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I haven't lived in Canada since around 2006. I try to keep up with the news because my family lives there and the talk about this all the time. I don't use Google News, I don't go on Reddit, and this article managed to make it's way through the digestive track of the Internet to land in my feed, maybe on Mastodon.

So, I read it, and I was a little irked by the numbers. I shared it here and now I have the feedback I want.

It is heartwarming to be judged so immediately based solely on the source of something I shared. Lemmy is truly becoming Reddit.

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It is heartwarming to be judged so immediately based solely on the source of something I shared. Lemmy is truly becoming Reddit.

Do you routinely get this defensive and play victim when asked simple questions?

So, I read it, and I was a little irked by the numbers. I shared it here and now I have the feedback I want.

The feedback you wanted was "Fuck Nat. po.", "Postmedia is stepping up its Fox Newsification of Canadian news", "Comments on /r/Canada are so fucking weird. Someone literally said “I was an immigrant turned citizen and I support this”. It’s like: now that you have your citizenship you aren’t considered an immigrant anymore? Wow. Edit changes “I am” for “I was”", "https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/221026/dq221026a-eng.htm ??? 23% of all Canadians are first-generation immigrants. Permanent Residents are legal immigrants. 48% probably includes some of these immigrants that want to deport themselves. What are y’all smoking?"?

I haven’t lived in Canada since around 2006. I try to keep up with the news because my family lives there and the talk about this all the time. I don’t use Google News, I don’t go on Reddit, and this article managed to make it’s way through the digestive track of the Internet to land in my feed, maybe on Mastodon.

While I appreciate a response, it doesn't answer the question I posed. I also don't care that much if you want to keep being weird about it. I was just curious as to why you support the publication after agreeing with the statement "Fuck Nat. po.".

[–] bbbhltz@beehaw.org 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have nothing to defend or of which to be the victim?

I'm not a fan of the NP or the Globe, but I still read the news. Sometimes I'm disappointed with the CBC. I like seeing other ideas, though. I like seeing how the news can spin and slant things. It is part of my work.

I didn't mean to come off as a c-nt and make you waste you time with this long response.

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 week ago

I have nothing to defend or of which to be the victim?

Hence why I asked "Do you routinely get this defensive and play victim when asked simple questions?" in response to you feeling "judged" and "like you are on reddit" after being asked why you support something you don't like.

If you have negative feelings about someone asking you a question about yourself it is likely time for some self reflection. It is okay not to have answers to questions about yourself, but feeling attacked by those questions when you do not have an answer is not a healthy response.

[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago

Postmedia is stepping up its Fox Newsification of Canadian news

[–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

sadly, i have heard these comments from people in my area. they of course are talking about Indian students. "they take up bus space, they take our jobs, they open their own restaurants, they don't follow Canadian values". a lot of hate spewing from these people.

[–] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Canadian values seem to have evaporated in the last ten years. I feel like we're almost unidentifiable when viewed next to Americans in a crowd now. There's still a few big differences, but politically we're in near lock step just a few years behind America. At least, that's the vibe I get speaking with anyone older than 40. Social media has turned Canada into a Kuato-like attachment to America's hip, except instead of calling the shots we're just along for the ride as the host begins its descent into a death rattle.

[–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yes there are alot of things i find similar to how people act here vs the US. We need to bring back our separate identity but we also have to remember they are our neighbors down there. People don't even talk to their neighbors here anymore. Having said that, these people have been very kind to me and down to earth, i have not seen anything negative about them.

[–] Maverick604@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

** Unless you are a recognized native person, WE ARE ALL IMMIGRANTS ** Jfc, you people are dumb.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I am the descendant of immigrants.

Where would I be sent if deported?

I only have one citizenship.

[–] Maverick604@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Being a citizen does not make you any less of an immigrant. Being a descendant of immigrants also, surprisingly still makes you an immigrant. So perhaps we should stop talking about punishing immigrants as if it’s some new novel thing that’s causing all our ills. Immigration evidently worked for all of us, so let’s try not to sh*t all over the people that follow us. Immigration built Canada and, if you’ve noticed our birth rate over the past decade, without immigration, Canada will die. Frankly we need them more than they need us.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Oh, so several generations of my family were born here, we don't have a single country of origin, (even if we knew it) doesn't make me a natural born resident of my geographic area?

Fuck off with that dipshit idea.

Edit: please point out where being born in a country makes you an immigrant there.

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

I don’t know of a single Timmie’s in my region which isn’t staffed entirely by Filipinos or other foreign nationals that live 20 to a flat that is also owned by their employer.

We deport these people, and prices of a lot of things are going to spike dramatically. Those business owners won’t be able to earn those many millions a year if they can only hire Canadian citizens.