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[–] big_spoon@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Biggvs Divorcivs

[–] OrnluWolfjarl@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What nonsense did he actually say?

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Elon got in a huge fight with a bunch of maga accounts on x over H1 visas. Basically, the dynamic is that it's more profitable for the capitalist class to bring educated workers from abroad than to actually fund an education system in the states. This way they outsource the cost of education, and reap the benefits of having workers whom they can pay less and who have less rights. Workers on H1 visas aren't gonna be unionizing for example.

[–] darkernations@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

He doesn't appear to be wrong here (from a capitalist perspective)? And pissed off a bunch of settler-colonial labour aristocrats/petite- bourgoise in the process. To paraphrase a war-criminal; deplorables everywhere.

I do wish those STEM h1-visa candidates had more class consciousness though.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Much of the appeal of hiring people on visa is that they're not going to have class consciousness, and if they did then you can just cancel their visa. This arrangement puts all the power in the hands of the employer.

[–] darkernations@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 days ago

Well put though I did mean more from a global/international class persepctive ie fraternity with others from the collective global south - as referenced in my other comment. You are right; anti-unionism is built into the selection process.

[–] bunitor@lemmy.eco.br 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

i mostly agree, but it's not that easy to "have more class consciousness" when you're a non-citizen though, as you're way more vulnerable and even posting the wrong stuff online might get your visa denied

[–] darkernations@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I meant less to do with any potential revolutionary zeal and more to do with pipeline-to-capital-defence as they become potential labour aristocrats or consider themselves temporary non-bourgoisie.

Addendum: (Exemplified, for example, when they often amp up their colourism/castism/anti-immigrant/anti-black racist perspectives if they become successful American Citizens. However, on these fourms we often do come from glass houses.)

[–] bunitor@lemmy.eco.br 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

i see what you mean now. like "cubans for trump" bullshit

[–] darkernations@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 days ago

Gusanos are a good example.

[–] NahMarcas@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 days ago

I have to discreep, a slave no work more because them have salary (in food and bed) while a peasant win a percentage of their production (a 10% minus taxes, rent and floor maintainment) theres no war except class war