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1984 by George Orwell (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 1 year ago by freesoldier@sh.itjust.works to c/books@lemmy.ml

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I don't really know how to write this one as I am not really one of those who report on books.

Just wanna say to y'all who didn't read the book you should really go get it. It tells the story of a very dark world, where each uniqueness of our world is exaggerated and shaded, where all is inspected, monitored and controlled by a central authority. a centralized world, where nothing is beautiful but one thing - the common truth. How does living in a world like this feels? How far fetched is this world from ours? What is the nature of truth, and freedom?

These are my thoughts. hope that's working for you.

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[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

A rapist, a snitch, a plagiarist, and a racist walks into a bar. The bartender asks; “How’s the new book coming along Mr. Orwell?

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is this because of the animation movie with the farm animals and your beloved leader bring depicted as a fat pig?

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

I don't care about boring films about boring books, I've despised Orwell's works since the moment I've read them when I was a liberal, because they are of poor quality. 1984 is even misogynous with its portrayal of the female character and the whole story is poorly written, as others have pointed out, there are better implementations of the same idea, such as a Brave New World.

[–] bigwag1@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But that's four people..

[–] 133arc585@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Was that supposed to be some sort of joke or do you actually not know Orwell himself was: a rapist, a snitch, a plagiarist, and a racist? One man, four horrible qualities.

[–] src@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Believe it or not, it's entirely possible to separate the artist from the art. Shocker, I know.

Whatever it is you think about him really doesn't matter.

[–] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I can't agree with that anymore. Art is inherently human, it's inherently individual. The person or people who make it put a piece of themselves into it. It's not possible to separate the art from the artist, and their human ideas, actions, motivations, and class.

In this case, Orwell wrote from a very personal perspective, so his works are intrinsically linked to his deeds and ideology as a human.

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

I completely agree, it just happens that in this case a terrible person was also a terrible writer. It was simply a joke.

[–] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's really quite a terrible book, by quite a terrible man. Yet there are many reasons why it is so highly regarded in our culture, primarily pertaining to its propaganda value.

https://redsails.org/asimov-on-1984/

https://redsails.org/on-orwell/

[–] neo@lemmy.comfysnug.space 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think you mean "because every collective world government treated it as a how-to guide"

[–] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

No, I meant what I wrote. I'm not entirely sure what you mean with "collective world government."

[–] 133arc585@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

I think there are many other versions of the same story that aren't plagiarized, aren't written by horrible humans, and are also better written.

Personally, I'm fond of Aldous Huxley's Brave New World. I haven't read it, but you can skip Orwell's plagiarizing and go to the source and read Yevgeny Zamyatin's We.