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Incandescent light bulbs are officially banned in the U.S.::America’s ban on incandescent light bulbs, 16 years in the making, is finally a reality. Well, mostly.

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[–] Imgonnatrythis@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Makes sense. Nonetheless, reminds me of modern washing machines. Yeah they make sense and save water but it stinks that it's a compromise and it takes twice as long to wash. With Led bulbs it's always a say a prayer situation to see if a particular bulb works with a particular dimmer and isn't a flickering mess.

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[–] kalpol@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (19 children)

I wish the LEDs weren't such crap. They don't even last as long as a 60W incandescent a lot of times. The old CFLs last years, I have a few over ten years old.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This hasn't been my experience at all, I replaced most of the bulbs in my house with LEDs a couple years ago and I don't think I've had to replace a single one since. When they were all incandescent, I was regularly replacing burned out bulbs. Check which brand you're buying, you're probably buying crap which is why you're getting crap. I've found Phillips bulbs work great and are long lasting, I have some that've been in a fixture for 5 years now with no issue

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

I don't know what kind of crap LED light bulbs you get in the US but here in Europe to to get a CE mark (required to be able to import them into the EU) a model has to have less than 5% failure rate within (if I remember it correctly) the first year, last 10,000h at least (and have been tested for it, which is quite funny because the test requires having the thing always on for months), turn on within a second, lose (due to burn-in) less than a few percent (forgot the number) brightness within the first 6 months and a bunch of other requirements including stuff like color fidelity.

About a decade ago I actually looked into starting a business importing those things from China and still tody have several samples from back then still working fine (and that's also why I know the CE mark requirements for LED light bulbs).

More in general I've been using LED lamps for even longer and even back in the day when they were more expensive those things paid for themselves in lower power costs, and often do so quite fast (a couple of months) when used to replace incandescents, plus the rate of failures is now pretty low.

(When I first replaced all my lightbulbs with LEDs, way back when they weren't even as efficient as now, the fall in the electricity bill was very noticeable)

Oh, and the price of those things at the factory has been less than $1 for ages, so stores trying to sell those for more than $2 have huge markups and you're better of avoiding those places and getting them from hardware stores and similar (or just buy online).

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[–] mercurly@slrpnk.net 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I wonder if this will have any effect on the film industry...

[–] PrawnStockton@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I had always used incandescent bulbs in practicals but now there are LED bulbs made specifically for film sets. Household LED bulbs are usually a mess on camera with ugly color spikes and/or flickering.

I've been lighting almost exclusively with LED these days aside from some HMI's, but even those are starting to get LED competition, at least for smaller ones.

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[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Let's be real here, people have switched to LEDs a long time before this ban happened. But that's a good thing, and kind of the whole point of the timeline of this ban.

You want the market to decide on its own that LEDs are superior and then give it time to slowly switch over. Setting a ban and then forcing people to switch in 3 months to some new lighting technology is only going to build resentment from certain groups. Setting a ban that is 5, 10, 15 years out is the smart way of doing it. The thinking is that by then, the superior product will have already taken over the older tech and people won't be up-in-arms over the big bag gob'ment telling them what to do.

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[–] m3t00@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

electric companies started subsidizing LEDs 10 years ago at box stores. electricity use went down and the bills went up as usual. all the while still burning coal. 🤔 incentives? probably part of the same mandates taxes get spent on

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Once they got the white light spectrum figured out I was fine with switching to leds. Less power, don't get hot, last longer.

[–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (15 children)

Why are Republicans mad about it?!

[–] WEE_WOO@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Something about limiting consumer choice, but everyone purchased LED bulbs to begin with anyways...

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