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The Duff CEO with a Windows-Logo on his forehead: "Gamers use Windows because of its' user experience not our de facto monopoly."

Next Image: Duff CEO with Windows-Logo in front of a "Out of Business" sign. Subtitle: "30 minutes after SteamOS is released"

Edit: Yo, I'm not saying this is gonna happen. I just want to say that Windew's UX sucks ass.

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[–] Burghler@sh.itjust.works 20 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (14 children)

Unfortunately the biggest issue now is the anticheats that only function on windows. My friends refuse to switch to Linux because you cannot play:

  • fortnite
  • league of legends
  • escape from tarkov
  • battlefield
  • apex legends
  • valorant
  • R6 siege
  • GTA 5
  • Rust
  • Destiny 2 Etc

They'll play other games but because they mainline one of these they refuse to leave. As long as SteamOS has no answer to these anti cheats windows will maintain a dominance.

Source: https://areweanticheatyet.com/

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 3 points 7 hours ago

They literally care about market share and money watch the magical adoption of server stuff anti chest if Linux takes off

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 13 points 10 hours ago

Don't make me tap the post title.

[–] Pringles@lemm.ee 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sure it's on the roadmap, but not a current priority. First get it to work decently and iron all the kinks out of steamos, then they can look at anti-cheating.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago

Its not because steam doesnt support it. Some of the games on that list have banned players from connecting online from linux. Apex legends put out a newsletter about how they couldn't keep up with cheating using linux OSes and so they had to just cut it off entirely.

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[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

What kind of apostrophe use is

its'

?!

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 points 8 hours ago (5 children)

That's how I learned to use the posessive pronoun of "it".

[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 hours ago

Possessive it is "its"

It's = it is

English s weird

Great meme though!

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 6 points 7 hours ago

That I believe is only for plurals, such as:

(one) cat's paw vs (multiple) cats' paws

It, however, is not a plural, otherwise it would be "they". Though I must admit I've probably made the same mistake myself.

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[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 7 points 11 hours ago (10 children)

I don't really understand this buzz about Steam OS displacing Windows.

Windows is a general purpose computer OS; whereas Steam OS is a game-platform OS designed for the Steam Deck and similar devices. It doesn't seem to be the same use case. Obviously Steam OS could be used as a general purpose OS, if you just switch modes and install this and that software... but then what are you waiting for? There are already heaps of high quality general purpose Linux OSs already designed for that purpose. Linux Mint is a drop-in replacement for Windows, and has no problems whatsoever with games.

I mean, if you want to use Steam OS on your main computer, then that's fine - but I just don't really see a reason to use that rather than something that is already available, and already a desktop OS rather than a console OS.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 1 points 3 hours ago

A large amount of non-gaming work that people do on PCs these days is inside a web browser. A chromebook would do fine. In fact, a lot of IT departments prefer it because it's a locked down environment by default.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

Maybe some people only use their computers to play games? I don't know. I've been wondering as well. Pretty much any modern distribution works fine.

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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 10 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

"Who here wants a bathtub Mint distro?"

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 3 points 10 hours ago

Finally a comment that I expect from a simpsons shitpost community. Here's your reward: A scented candle!

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 27 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (4 children)

Requisite "you don't need to wait for SteamOS" post.

Gamed on Linux for over 2 years. The time is now. Shit just works (mostly).

Edit: and yes, you can often get better performance on the same games with the same hardware.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 3 points 5 hours ago

Same experience here. People waiting for steamos don't know most good distros work how they think steamos is gonna. Games with kernel level anti cheat that are worth playing are few and far between. And fuck their communities for not rioting when their fellow members get removed from the game for no reason.

My whole family largely uses Linux as our daily driver - ages - 40, 38, 18, 9, 7

The only one not running Linux is my 38 year old wife.

HOWEVER - my 9 year old got an occulus for Xmas, and suddenly we are dual booting and that's a real shame.

[–] amon@lemmy.world 9 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

you can often get better performance on the same games with the same hardware.

Because there's a reason why Linux does not randomly use the disk like Windows does

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[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 62 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

At least we didn't have to look at goddamn Ads in the menu. Also the AI """integration""" fucked up things pretty badly. Sometime you just need a simple, light, OS to do your thing.

[–] Godort@lemm.ee 33 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

This is the main problem right now.

People want to return to a lighter simple Windows OS, but Microsoft is making that increasingly hard to access. The LTSC version of Windows 10 is close(No AI, No Ads, and minimal telemetry that can be disabled), but they dont sell it to the public unless you buy 5 copies, and ~~there is no LTSC version of Windows 11 yet.~~ looks like they finally released it a couple months back, but people are unhappy with it.

Linux offers an alternative, but compatibility is still a huge issue despite the impressive gains Wine and Proton have made in the last few years.

The reality is that if you have a Windows PC you can basically guarantee that you can install anything you might want(barring hardware limitations). You can often make that software work on Linux too, but there is always some tinkering involved and the general public doesn't want to deal with that, nor do they want to change to a FOSS alternative.

[–] nickhammes@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago

And if you like playing certain games with kernel anti-cheat, the only way you're getting away from Windows is on console. Unless gamers jumping from Windows to Max/Linux increase by improbable orders of magnitude, that's not changing anytime soon.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 13 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

If SteamOS is ever launched for non-valve hardware, I would probably stop whatever I'm doing at work to get it installed

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 4 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Copying my own comment from yesterday:

There was a comment thread in one of the Linux communities the other day talking about this mindset. Obviously the comments got a bit rude and unconstructive, but the point is that you can switch to something like bazzite now and most things will work pretty well, but if you're holding out until it's perfect then you'll be waiting forever!

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[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 hours ago

It was already launched for non-Valve hardware. Not for any hardware though, just a Lenovo handheld.

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[–] Psionicsickness@reddthat.com 39 points 19 hours ago (12 children)

Always had windows. Never wanted Linux because I didn’t want to dick around with every game install. You give me an OS that lets me browse and game WITHOUT having to dick around with every application, and I’d switch in a heartbeat.

[–] Allero 9 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

Steam on Linux already does exactly that. You hit play and that's it, exactly like on Windows. The rest is done for you automatically.

Tinkering might be required with a few non-Steam games and programs, but for the most part, they just work as well.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

And lets be honest, it is not as if tinkering isn't required for a lot of things on Windows too, it is just that the tinkering is a lot more random "hope & pray" stuff like uninstalling and reinstalling things, rebooting,... and hoping the problem goes away.

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[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

For the most part that's true, but when something goes wrong, it really goes wrong.

For example, I wanted to play Path of Exile 2, and it would get stuck at a black screen on startup. The fix is "easy" on Windows, you just edit an ini file in "My Documents". To fix it on Linux, that same file is stored in

/home/[YOUR USERNAME]/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/2694490/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/Documents/My Games/Path of Exile 2/poe2_production_Config.ini

Which is insane by any standard.

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[–] bizzle@lemmy.world 21 points 17 hours ago (16 children)

I can't even remember the last time I had to fuck around with a Steam game, all the ones I want to play just work

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[–] missingno@fedia.io 17 points 17 hours ago

The first time you try Linux will have an initial learning curve. Just like the first time you tried Windows. But once you have everything set up the way you like and get used to it, you really won't find yourself having to troubleshoot very often. You certainly don't have to "dick around with every game install" either.

[–] savvywolf@pawb.social 28 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

It's actually gotten a lot better over the last few years; Valve has been putting in a lot of work into making gaming "just work" through Steam. It's still a bit jank, but honestly all OSes are a bit jank.

If anyone in this thread is interested, I'd recommend giving Linux Mint a go. There's nothing really to lose.

Anyway, I'm done shilling Linux so I'll let you get back to your Simpsoning. :P

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[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 13 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Recall is the final straw for me. If there really is no way to permanently disable it then I'm going to have to get used to Linux/SteamOS. Which sucks because I really do seriously value things just working and not have to dig for hours to fix random issues with every little program I want to use. :/

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 hours ago

I value the same things and after spending a few days troubleshooting mh worlds and rummaging through internet forums, cmd line, reg edit i remembered my deck plays it fine and I installed fedora.

My os now uses 1gb of ram, i didn't need a day to find drivers for all my weird hardware as it all just worked, mh world runs without crashing, old weird games started working flawless, my graphics tablet doesn't want me to manually launch drivers to work

Windows has become what linux was.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

You will like Linux then because on Linux, unlike Windows, you can figure out why stuff goes wrong and then fix it for good instead of randomly having reappearances of the same problem (barring hardware issues like overheating of course but that affects all systems equally).

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[–] nickhammes@lemmy.world 12 points 14 hours ago

Honestly, as someone comfortable with Linux already, but running Windows because of games, it was the last straw for me in a bigger way. A bunch of people up and down the chain at Microsoft thought recall was a good idea, and didn't need really basic safety features at launch. Not only is that very poor judgement, but what they think I want and need is so far disconnected from reality that following their upgrade path is a huge risk.

Maybe they'll put switches in to disable Recall, but maybe they'll want to take them away for my own good at some point in the future. Maybe they'll do so silently. I know there'll be an adjustment curve, but I'd rather be in control of it rather than let the people who thought Recall was a good idea updating my OS internals. I'll never install Windows 11 on a device I own, and I'm not holding my breath on future versions at this rate.

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