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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Been an American in America for 4 decades. From my perspective American decline is undeniable. It is simple fact.

Largely because we can't connect the dots and accept that we should be focusing on the class war, not the culture war, because that's the root of the problem. A lot of the hate and ignorance in America comes from desperation. We're desperate because we aren't losing, we've lost, a class war.

In my opinion the election that just happened was the nail in the coffin. We came together and the majority of us decided to let our oligarchs assume total control. It was a signal to them that they're good to be open about it now, too.

RIP to the middle class.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well said. We have indeed lost. Perhaps we can wipe the slate clean and start anew. I fear even if we did that though, there's enough of the population that would prefer the old way that something better could never come to fruition.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Perhaps we can wipe the slate clean and start anew.

History indicates that to do so will require a lot of time, violence, and death. And without a plan in place for what comes afterwards, we'd just end up with another shitty system.

[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Evolution has no foresight.

[–] ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A fall from greatness is inevitable and I'm afraid that the fall of America, with all of her hubris, is going to be spectacularly bloody and unpleasant for everyone. :(

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

When exactly was this greatness America is falling from? Was it back when things were built off the backs of slaves? Was it back when women were not allowed to vote or be professors? Was it back when interracial marriage was illegal? Was it back when gay marriage was illegal? When was it?

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

This is silly because we’ve always thought America was doing those things

[–] Hyphlosion@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They say Rome wasn’t built in a day. But also overlook that the Roman empire didn’t fall in a day either. It was a very gradual process.

So the real question is, if the US were to fall, would it be a quick or gradual process?

It already fell, so I guess the real question is how long it takes for people to realize it.

The three branches of government are wholly owned by the triad of evangelicals, Moscow, and a billionaire, they don't have any intention of following the law or constitution, and won't give up power. America is dead.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago

Gradual and ongoing since at least 1980.

[–] linkshulkdoingit69@lemmy.nz 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Application for asylum status when?

Once they start putting people in camps. We're a reactionary government. Proactive isn't really in the lexicon.

Although idk we might do the same, atleast the Canadian de-transition camps will be free.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 2 days ago

Don't worry, it's obvious from the inside too.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

To be fair a casual understanding of history shows they're practicing Christianity as it always has been

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 64 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It took centuries for the Roman Republic to fall. At some point in time, they were past the point of no return without themselves even realizing it.

I think we are in that position now. We have been on the decline for more than a decade now, and have had several opportunities to correct or reverse course, but the wrong decision is made at every opportunity because it's far easier for powerful influential people to increase their power, wealth and status at the expense of everyone else and suffer no consequences for doing so than it is for them to sacrifice their own power, wealth, and status for the benefit of the collective. Are we past the point of no return? I'd say an argument could be made for either yes or no, but we are undeniably closer to the precipice than we have ever been as a nation since the Civil War (which never truly ended).

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

The US has been on the decline since the 80s. It's been propped up on a strong economy and tech domination, but it's losing its lead, and late stage capitalism is rotting it from the inside out. Reagan really got this crazy train going

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[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It can't end soon enough for me. It needs to die.

Classic trolly problem. 350 million of us vs 8 billion of everyone else.

Easy math.

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[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 128 points 2 days ago (10 children)

Plus, they still have slavery! In the constitution it says slavery is not allowed, "except when incarcerated". There are states where incarcerated people, convicted by a corrupt justiciary system, are forced to work without pay.

Plus, they just elected an autocratic hate and fear spreading idiot who is a puppet of Putin and does everything in his power to make the US an even worse oligarchy.

The world isn't just watching, the world is watching in extreme horror and disgust.

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 101 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The American people voted a traitor into power that actively works for a hostile foreign power to destroy their country. And yet they can themselves patriots. Pathetic.

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