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Hi all, last night, a post from last year from my personal X account suddenly became a topic of discussion here on Reddit. I want to share a few thoughts on this to provide clarity to the community on what is Proton's policy on politics going forward.

First, while the X post was not intended to be a political statement, I can understand how it can be interpreted as such, and it therefore should not have been made. While we will not prohibit all employees from expressing personal political opinions publicly, it is something I will personally avoid in the future. I lean left on some issues, and right on other issues, but it doesn't serve our mission to publicly debate this. It should be obvious, but I will say that it is a false equivalence to say that agreeing with Republicans on one specific issue (antitrust enforcement to protect small companies) is equal to endorsing the entire Republican party platform.

Second, officially Proton must always be politically neutral, and while we may share facts and analysis, our policy going forward will be to share no opinions of a political nature. The line between facts, analysis, and opinions can be blurry at times, but we will seek to better clarify this over time through your feedback and input.

The exception to these rules is on the topics of privacy, security, and freedom. These are necessarily political topics, where influencing public policy to defend these values, often requires engaging politically.

The operations of Proton have always reflected our neutrality. For example, recently we refused pressure to deplatform both Palestinian student groups and Zionist student groups, not because we necessarily agreed with their views, but because we believe more strongly in their right to have their own views.

It is also a legal guarantee under Swiss law, which explicitly prohibits us from assisting foreign governments or agencies, and allows us no discretion to show favoritism as Swiss law and Swiss courts have the final say.

The promise we make is that no matter your politics, you will always be welcome at Proton (subject of course to adherence to our terms and conditions). When it comes to defending your right to privacy, Proton will show no favoritism or bias, and will unconditionally defend it irrespective of the opinions you may hold.

This is because both Proton as a company, and Proton as a community, is highly diverse, with people that hold a wide range of opinions and perspectives. It's important that we not lose sight of nuance. Agreeing/disagreeing with somebody on one point, rarely means you agree/disagree with them on every other point.

I would like to believe that as a community there is more that unites us than divides us, and that privacy and freedom are universal values that we can all agree upon. This continues to be the mission of the non-profit Proton Foundation, and we will strive to carry it out as neutrally as possible.

Going forward, I will be posting via u/andy1011000. Thank you for your feedback and inputs so far, and we look forward to continuing the conversation.

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[–] gravityowl@lemm.ee 45 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

Full context here for everyone.

Personally, that answer does not seem nearly enough and I believe he should step down if he truly cared about the Proton project as a whole.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 8 points 21 hours ago
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[–] TheHobbyist@lemmy.zip 73 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I'm personally satisfied with the statement, position and reflection on the issue.

It was a fuck-up to publicly respond to donaldtrump in what could be seen as an endorsement. This was acknowledged and remedied.

The no politics stance is probably unavoidable, as mentioned but they should never focus on political parties, but on defending the values, this is what is clarified and that's best. We should accept to support a bill strengthening privacy even if it may come from a political party we generally do not support. Denying our support to such a bill would not strengthen the core value we defend. And as individuals we may still criticize all other activities of such a political party if we disagree with others of their activities.

As a community, I hope we can come together, and resist the temptation of purity tests, and acknowledge that we are all fighting for the same cause, no matter our perspective on other issues. We need the support of everyone.

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

This comment is not the original. He changed it.

https://archive.ph/quYyb

[–] TheHobbyist@lemmy.zip 11 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

They seem to be two separate things. One is a comment, the other is a post.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 52 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Either way, if he believes this:

Until corporate Dems are thrown out, the reality is that Republicans remain more likely to tackle Big Tech abuses.

he's fucking dumb as a hammer

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[–] Aedis@lemmy.world 34 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

The lines between fact (...) and opinion can be blurry at times

Are they though?

[–] CatZoomies@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago

Andy Yen, perched on ivory tower: “Why yes, they are a bit blurry up here.”

[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml -1 points 16 hours ago

Fact: People make statements on social media they later regret.

Given the context, what is your opinion of that fact? Untimely? Biased? It's still true. Facts are facts

[–] WhatSay@slrpnk.net 16 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Words are nothing, Andy should step away from proton.

[–] mEEGal@lemmy.world 17 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

are you basing this on previous words he used ?

[–] Siathes@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 14 hours ago

Thank you for the chuckle! lol

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