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Year of the ~~Linux Desktop~~ Fediverse!

Side note, DAE find calling them "normies" kinda icky? It's like straight outta 4chan

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[–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I like the fediverse because there's no algorithm feeding me crap.

But from all the memes I've seen about people's "Chinese spy" perfecting their feed. I guess normal people love the algorithm

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I guess normal people love the algorithm

The TikTok algorithm was/is (guess it’s back up, but not going back after the Trump messaging) really good about picking smaller niche videos. I had never really thought to get into spinning my own wool until I saw people working with dog hair brushes to card. Lots of recycled/punk/broke bitch crafts, which is a good way to glue me to the phone.

I think algorithms can be good, there just isn’t much incentive to make them good. TikTok has really good discovery features, but it also wants to show you Family Guy clips next to video game footage so that you’ll shut your mind off and buy something.

[–] joyhunter@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't think algorithms are inherently bad, honestly I think the lack of an algorithm holds the fediverse back. On lemmy, sorting by popular creates an okish feed, enough to familiarize yourself with different comms, but on mastodon and the like, it can feel empty. While algorithms are associated with corporatism, an opt in adapted to fediverse sensibilities algorithm, could make some fedi apps more accessible.

[–] arudesalad@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago

That is definitely the appeal. My friends who use apps with algorithms like tik tok tell me that is the reason they use the apps. I can't blame them. Those algorithms showed me loads of obscure musical artists that are still my favorite today (and that is a good thing for indies/small businesses who don't have much money for ad spaces). There is a lot of good reasons for algorithms like that, the problem is the data necessary to make them work and what other stuff they do with it.

[–] GooberEar@lemmy.wtf 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Is the cute little monster thing eating powdered sugar with his whole face?

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[–] Xoriff@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Perfect meme to describe what's happening. Yes, fedi has some UX issues and is not very beginner friendly.

But also, people have gotten so used to being spoonfed content from an algorithm that tells them what they want to see that they can't handle the prospect of "build your own algorithm"

Corpo-curated-content is a hard drug and most people don't realize that they have an addiction.

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[–] Creddit@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I recently listened to Paul Frazee talk about Bluesky on the Software Engineering Radio podcast and it struck me that one thing they got right was looking at social media like a search engine looks at the web, instead of like a centralized platform(Facebook) and instead of like a federated network of platforms(fediverse).

If your feed is understood to be just the search results you see, then users can understand that their algorithm is something they need to work on in the same vein that they change their search parameters on Google or Bing or other search engines.

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[–] Zero22xx@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I use "normie" occasionally and it kinda makes me feel like le edgy teen. But the problem is that I'm not sure if there's another word that quite replaces it either. Sometimes it's the only word that works in a particular context.

[–] sunglocto@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Zero22xx@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

Doesn't have the same vibes though. To me 'normie' has always been a little bit of an insult on top of just describing the 'average person'. "Average person" is for when you're describing statistics. "Normie" is for when you're describing people that clutch their pearls and their bible when a goth walks past.

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