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[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 53 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

Trump’s order also indicated that his Justice Department may seek to expand the use of the death penalty, so that it can apply to crimes beyond murder. The directive orders the U.S. attorney general to “pursue the death penalty for all crimes of a severity demanding its use.”

Like being trans? Or gay? Or Communist? Or Socialist? Or Democrat?

[–] zib@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

This is gonna lead to things getting a whole lot worse for everyone. If the punishment for literally anything they happen to decide is a crime can be death, that leaves people with absolutely no reason not to fight back violently. Not like the punishment could get any worse.

[–] knobbysideup@sh.itjust.works 23 points 7 hours ago (3 children)
[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

trump also pardoned 1200 traitors

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 14 points 7 hours ago

Treason includes the death penalty but isn't Treason per the Supreme Court if your name ends in UMP.

[–] ouRKaoS 4 points 5 hours ago

How about multiple offenses?

I say once you rack up about 30 felonies, you're an incorrigible offender and a detriment to the rest of society.

[–] nao@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 hours ago

Could mean anything, or nothing at all

[–] Kumikommunism@hexbear.net 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

No, the explicit ones are for killing a cop or being an immigrant, for which he knows he will have wide support among Democrats.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 8 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

In my opinion Trump wants a way to punish anyone with death that questions his rule.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 22 points 7 hours ago

The "pro life" crowd everybody (it's always been about control)

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Biden could have pardoned everyone on federal death row.

[–] Garibaldee@lemm.ee 6 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Absolutely, he did pardon the vast majority of them, but the deaths of the remaining are on his hands, especially for someone who "doesn't believe in the death penalty". I haven't looked into the specifics of the 3 people he didn't pardon, but no matter what they did life in prison makes more sense than executing them in the richest country on the planet.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Two Mass murdering Nazis and the Boston Bomber. I'm not really for the death penalty either, I am however for hanging Nazis. So you know win some lose some

[–] Garibaldee@lemm.ee 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I still wouldn't advocate for executing them, obviously they should not be let back into society, but I really don't see the point in killing them, it doesn't change what they did, but as human beings they should at least have the right to live even though they denied that from other people.

I think it just feels worse in this hyper-capitalistic society, that everyone else is out working while they are "taken care of" by the state, but I think the better answer to that would be to create a society that isn't so dire, that it doesn't seem like prisoners are getting free handouts, as opposed to just killing the prisoners, as "it isn't fair they get to live off the taxes of their victims".

I probably wouldn't go to a protest of their execution, I probably also wouldn't protest people killing CEOs, just in terms of the operations of a state, I don't think corporal punishment is ever worth it currently.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

He was just too busy pardoning his cousins or whatever

Couldn't be helped

Ah well

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 8 points 6 hours ago
[–] Subtracty@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago