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TLDR if you don't wanna watch the whole thing: Benaminute (the Youtuber here) creates a fresh YouTube account and watches all recommended shorts without skipping. They repeat this 5 times, where they change their location to a random city in the US.

Below is the number of shorts after which alt-right content was recommended. Left wing/liberal content was never recommended first.

  1. Houston: 88 shorts
  2. Chicago: 98 shorts
  3. Atlanta: 109 shorts
  4. NYC: 247 shorts
  5. San Fransisco: never (Benaminute stopped after 250 shorts)

There however, was a certain pattern to this. First, non-political shorts were recommended. After that, AI Jesus shorts started to be recommended (with either AI Jesus talking to you, or an AI narrator narrating verses from the Bible). After this, non-political shorts by alt-right personalities (Jordan Peterson, Joe Rogan, Ben Shapiro, etc.) started to be recommended. Finally, explicitly alt-right shorts started to be recommended.

What I personally found both disturbing and kinda hilarious was in the case of Chicago. The non-political content in the beginning was a lot of Gen Alpha brainrot. Benaminute said that this seemed to be the norm for Chicago, as they had observed this in another similar experiment (which dealt with long-form content instead of shorts). After some shorts, there came a short where AI Gru (the main character from Despicable Me) was telling you to vote for Trump. He was going on about how voting for "Kamilia" would lose you "10000 rizz", and how voting for Trump would get you "1 million rizz".

In the end, Benaminute along with Miniminuteman propose a hypothesis trying to explain this phenomenon. They propose that alt-right content might be inciting more emotion, thus ranking high up in the algorithm. They say the algorithm isn't necessarily left wing or right wing, but that alt-right wingers have understood the methodology of how to capture and grow their audience better.

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[–] jared@mander.xyz 16 points 2 days ago

Don't let the algorithm feed you!

[–] thezeesystem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 days ago

All platforms are now excessively catering to Elon Nazi trump America. It's pretty much propaganda. And it's extreme and excessive.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago

This is basically the central thesis of The Social Dilemma.

[–] bulwark@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

I noticed my feed almost immediately changed after Trump was elected. I didn't change my viewing habits. I'm positive YouTube tweaked the algorithm to lean more right.

[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

If they are using a vpn to switch their location, could it be that people in the south are using the same ip to access phub and rightwing crap?

[–] CircuitGuy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I use YouTube and don't get much far-right content. My guess is it's because I don't watch much political content. I use a podcatcher and websites for that. If I watched political content, it might show me some lurid videos promoting politics I disagree with because that tends to keep viewers engaged with the site/app longer than if they just showed videos consistent with the ideology I seek out. That gives people the feeling they're trying to push an ideology.

I made that up without any evidence. It's just my guess. I'm a moderate libertarian who leans Democratic because Republicans have not even been pretending to care about liberty, and for whatever reason it doesn't recommend the far-right crap to me.

[–] ohellidk@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago

Crazy stuff. So not only does YouTube make you generally dumber, it now is pushing the audience to more Conservative viewpoints because of the "emotional engagement" that keeps 'em watching. and YouTube probably sells more premium subscriptions that way. fuck google!

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

If the channel is popular, those videos will get recommend

Of it has engagement on top of that, you are fucked, it will definitely get recommend to you.

Either block the channel, the user, or use in incognito. Or don't

[–] Hope@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Just scrolling through shorts on a given day, I'm usually recommended at least one short by someone infamously hostile to the LGBTQIA+ community. I get that it could be from people with my interests hate-watching, but I don't want to be shown any of it. (Nearly all of my YouTube subscriptions are to LGBTQIA+ creators. I'm not subscribed to anyone who has ever even mentioned support for right leaning policies on anything.)

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[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So....... in the US then ?

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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I've been happy with BlockTube for blocking channels or single videos. I also use YouTube Shorts Redirect for automatically converting shorts into regular videos.

[–] Waldschrat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Almost no corporation has benefits operating in a liberal/left country, they are harder to exploit and make profit of. Why would they promote things like worker protection, parental leave, unions, reducing their own rights to favor the society, paying for healthcare etc? Edit: Wording

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