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[–] happybadger@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

Oh yeah? Name one way I funded Hamas except for those newspaper articles I wrote about the strategic brilliance of me funding Hamas.

[–] jray4559@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Netanyahu quitting while there are rockets going into his country? Will never happen.

[–] FMT99@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Without rockets chances would be pretty slim too.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Former prime minister Ehud Barak described the terrorist attack as “the most severe blow Israel has suffered since its establishment to date”.

The interventions come amid growing concern in Israel at the government’s attempts to free some of the 200 hostages held by Hamas in Gaza.

The Israeli PM also remains embroiled in a corruption trial on an array of charges including fraud, breaching public trust and accepting bribes, all of which he denies.

Cabinet ministers including the controversial far-right finance minister Bezalel Smotrich, defence chiefs including the Israeli military chief of staff Herzi Halevi, and Ronen Bar, who heads Israel’s domestic intelligence agency, the Shin Bet, have all apologised for the failure of the Israeli government to protect its citizens after the attack.

Israeli bombardments of the territory have killed more then 4,385 people and injured an estimated 13,000 over the past two weeks, according to the Hamas-run health ministry.

Barak added: “You cannot lead Israel through such a demanding crisis, both politically and strategically, when you are responsible for the most severe kind of failure of government in the history of the country, and you cannot rebuild this trust from zero.


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[–] BEDE@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[–] guyrocket@kbin.social -4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Wow. Going to war while telling your leader to quit. That's leaping off without a parachute.

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

This is as much war as US' war on terror.

Everyone is wondering how Israel missed it, there are even theories that he knew about the attack and let it happen to increase nationalist sentiment and secure more power. He just didn't know it will be this bad.

He deserves to be removed, but he will fight to stay because he has no shame.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

The war is BECAUSE of Netanyahu. Yes he should quit. Israelis replaced Golda Meir for her governments failures during wars.

[–] angrymouse@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Netanyahu is not like Churchill against the nazis, Hammas is like a bunch of Kids with sticks against Israel Army

[–] MxM111@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There still should be a plan and a leader responsible for its implementation. Hamas maybe a bunch of kids with sticks, but Israeli Army is not, and potential for screwup is high.

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is a prime minister the one that comes up with plan like that?

[–] Corran1138@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

There’s multiple levels so the answer is “sort of.” Very generally, the Minister of Defense (or equivalent) has a national defense council that will have heads of armed forces and maybe a few senior civilian members. The council creates the overall battle plan with specific generals or admirals creating plans for specific battles or campaigns that conform to the overarching goals set by the defense council. The Prime Minister has a cabinet. The cabinet will receive info from the defense council. Intelligence agencies and departments involved with any economic warfare. The PM and cabinet can give direction to individual councils and departments to coordinate the overarching strategy of the entire country. The defense council will then adjust plans based on Cabinet’s directives. The PM is probably given detailed briefings of battlefield progress and aims for the military for the short-, medium-, and long-term for the conflict and can veto specific plans. But the PM won’t help to plan attacks or modify those plans usually. That’s the purview of generals and admirals.

[–] angrymouse@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You maybe right, but I just can't see any big risk for Israel here besides lose their institutions to an autocratic leader.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago

As I said, potential for screwup is high. But the leader does not has to be Netanyahu.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago

Those are two separate decisions, the latter is a good one and the former terrible.