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Hey! I’m currently on Fedora Workstation and I’m getting bored. Nothing in particular. I’ve heard about immutable distros and I’m thinking about Fedora Kinoite. The idea is interesting but idk if it’s worth it. CPU and GPU are AMD. Mostly used for gaming.

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[–] med@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I’m not a a current user of immutable distros, but I’m in the same boat as you. Interested in immutable os’s, running fedora workstation, getting bored.

I’ve been working on independent setups to see how I’d get customization working on an immutable distro. Some combination of containers seems like how I’d go. See this explanation.

For example, I’m running a wayland system, and RemoteApp/Rails on freerdp only works with X. Xwayland is currently broken on my system (installed as fedora 39 *beta). I require this for work. I installed distrobox with debian 12 bookworm, installed the required packages and it works like a charm.

On immutable OS’sI have been watching Vanilla OS for a while. I really like what I see. I’m just not sure what the security posture of it is.

The biggest thing holding me back is Gnome 45. It’s so good. Having an independent prioritized thread for mouse/keys makes it feel so smooth.

I’ve built hyprland and begun adding all the essential pieces to make it a viable replacement for Gnome. I’m not there yet, but once I figure out ad-hoc multi-monitor support with docks, I will be.

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[–] jaykay@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

2 points for vanillaOS. What’s the problem with their security? Also, coming from KDE, what’s that about gnome mouse thing you’re talking about? Just curious lol

[–] med@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t have a particular problem with their security, I just don’t have a clear picture of what they’re about yet - and I don’t want to give the impression that I’ve investigated it and found everything’s in order.

Gnome’s mouse thing is about running the human input devices in a separate thread, prioritized over the rest of its spawned processes. The practical upshot is, if your system is chugging under the weight of too many programs, your input won’t be laggy

[–] jaykay@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fair enough, thanks for honesty. The mouse thing sounds sick, although I have a pretty powerful setup 😜

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[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I think immutable OSes serve two purposes: For the developer who needs to operate multiple environments at the same time, and for the utter novice who could screw something up otherwise.

This audience, us, is the exactly middle ground. We like tinkering. We like setting things up.

So, I don’t think immutable OSes are for us.

[–] Sentau@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah man I don't know. I used to think I like tinkering(used endeavour for a few months) but I am enjoying the no maintaince life with uBlue very much. Most of the time the system updates on its own and I am not even aware that the system updated. Same with flatpaks which also auto update so they are always on the latest version provided by flathub when I use them. But I also like gnome so maybe I am not the tinker lover I thought I was

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[–] minnix@lemux.minnix.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been using Kinoite for a couple of years now on my Thinkpad. What would you like to know?

[–] jaykay@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How much did you have to adapt to the new app installing workflow? If you know what I mean

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[–] GustavoM@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Eh, I don't do anything illicit on the internet neither work at NASA or any other high-security-related job... so I'm in the "Lol" side of this whole story.

Compile your commands, kids.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

I personally don't like them. I just keep my system clean and use distrobox and flatpak

[–] Fjor@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Edit: Tumbleweed is not immutable, you learn something new every day, especially from your mistakes 🙃 (it's still a really nice distro)

Personally really happy with my choice of ~Immutable~ Distro: OpenSuse Tumbleweed. To me, who is half a year into using linux, its very convenient to use an immutable system as IF i were to do a wrong command or whatever its super easy to rollback the system (at least on Suse as it uses btrfs-filesystem). Another thing worth mentioning which is also why I chose to go with immutable is that it really teaches you "the good standards" of where to tinker with files and where not to, at least for a beginner like myself this is very nice.

[–] SquigglyEmpire@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

As you already noted Tumbleweed isn't immutable, but it is generally delightful! It's the one I've always been most comfortable with in terms of Rolling Releases

[–] miracleorange@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tumbleweed isn't immutable... Aeon (previously MicroOS Desktop) is.

[–] Fjor@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Oh wow, won't you look at that! 😅 Well that jsut shows my lack of experience I guess. I swear I heard it somewhere and just believed it was. Or maybe I misread and read that MicroOS and Aeon was, therefore assumed Tumbleweed was... My bad!

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