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Is there stats somewhere that show how much the fediverse or lemmy have grown over a certain period of time? I find it interesting that though these platforms do seem relatively popular ( especially recently ) That the number of posts in certain communities is still pretty low and the number of comments even on popular threads is rather low.

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[–] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think a lot of people are used to just read from reddit and need active encouragement to post links and to comment.

[–] drascus@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

yeah I get that. I tend to be a fairly active poster and commenter. We just need a slightly higher ratio of posters/commenters to lerkers. Nothing wrong with lerking as long as there are people to keep things moving.

[–] moreeni@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Generator@lemmy.pt 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Holy hell, the total number of users was 180k one Monday. Now it's nearly 10x that

[–] Generator@lemmy.pt 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe %20 are bots or parked accounts

My guess is that 80% of the new accounts are bots or parked after looking ibto it a bit

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 5 points 1 year ago

The number of comments on popular threads is low compared to Reddit but that's not really a fair comparison, given how long Reddit has been around. I've only been here for a couple weeks and it's pretty astonishing how much it's grown even in that time. The most popular servers were seeing post counts in the tens or hundreds, not tens of thousands.

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Just made a recent discovery and thought we might want to discuss in here. Copied from my other comment here

Also holy shit, you just made me realize that third party platforms don't seem to be tracking the active users on Lemmy accurately. Either that or kbin is defining an active user very generously and Lemmy is being more strict.

https://the-federation.info/node/details/48862 https://the-federation.info/node/details/49984

See how kbin and lemmy.world have nearly identical trajectories? Lemmy.world actually has significantly more posts and comments. However, lemmy.world only shows like 12k active users and kbin shows all 42k of it's users as active.

This is a vital issue to get to the bottom of, because the narrative from reddit is going to be that Lemmy's userbase is all bots. And then you go to a page like this and it does look pretty bad.

https://fedidb.org/current-events/threadiverse

If kbin is overcounting active users, we can leave that for later 😅. But if Lemmy is undercounting, we need to fix that ASAP so that people don't think it's a ghost town.

[–] drascus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's interesting 🤔 I wonder if something about the federated nature makes active users difficult to count accurately. I wouldn't say that Lemmy is a ghost town but there isn't as much participation as their could be. I'm not even sure how the stats define active to be honest. So there is a lot of unknowns about how that calculation is done.

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hopefully participation will increase as the software improves. Totally understandable if people are frustrated by the current state of the platform and not really participating too much, but hopefully they are still lurking around, ready to jump in when things are patched up.

Sh.itjust.works is one of the more active instances for its size, but we can do even better.

[–] drascus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So yeah I just want to show what I am talking about something is completely weird. So if you are on a sh.itjust.works instance and view a community outside this one you see this :

Now here is the same block not logged into an instance:

See the stats are completely different. This is maddeningly confusing. They need to fix the stats overall. I am not sure that any place collecting stats could be right at this point.

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's been that way the whole time. What you unfortunately need to do is use a third party tool to find/examine communities. Then join the ones you want and ignore the stats at the top because they're dead wrong.

https://lemmyverse.net/communities

Btw y'all newbies have it easy, back in my day (2 weeks ago), we had to use this one

https://browse.feddit.de/

Which is fine but you can see how things are improving rapidly.

To clarify your concerns, I don't believe the issue is with the local tracking of stats, but rather with the stats getting uploaded from each server to the rest of the fediverse. If you check our local communities, the stats all seem accurate, at least for me.

[–] drascus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lol I like how "back in the day" was two weeks ago LMAO

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I aim to please

[–] ShadowAether@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago
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