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I've been messing around with Magic Earth and Organic Maps recently.

I immediately noticed that when I type a home address in Magic Earth, the app can take me to the exact house on the block.

However, when I type the same home address in Organic Maps, the app can only take me to the street where the house is. It can find the exact house.

Why is this the case? I thought both Magic Earth and Organic Maps used the same map data behind the scenes...

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[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 18 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

If you look on the "about" page of Magic Earth, it mentions "powered by" Magic Lane which is the engine used for searching and navigation. Only the displayed map is from the OSM project.

[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

That doesnt really answer the question, as how could MagicLane find an address, it's just an engine, it shouldn't have any extra map data.

On the third party licenses a lot transit sources are displayed, but I cant find any address related source.

If the address is coming from osm, it may be not mapped manually, but only as part of an addr:interpolation line. Organic maps supports finding addresses in such lines, but it doesn't interpolate the position of the point, while Magic earth does.

Another option is they started to add overture address data, but forgot to mention on the licenses page? Overture has 400 million addresses released with an osm compatible license: https://docs.overturemaps.org/guides/addresses/

@paequ2@lemmy.today can you find the address on https://osm.org/ ? You could figure out fromthat if it's coming from osm or from another source

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Thanks for clarification. I assumed they have their own DB of POIs but they mention somewhere that their data comes from the OSM contributors.

[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

In Magic Earth: Settings -> Support -> About -> Third party licenses.

[–] Successful_Try543@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That's Magig Earth. I was talking about Magic Lane.

[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, Magic Earth uses Magic Lane as an engine, OSM as data, and a lot external sources for transit data, what is the point.

Magic Lane mentions that their data is from OSM on their homepage, but does not "advertise" it (right at the top), as the information is found quite far down on their page. That's all.

[–] paequ2 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I tried looking up the address on https://osm.org/ , but it's not there either. The results from https://osm.org/ seem to match Organic Maps.

[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

So Magic Earth uses other sources without attribution? It's possible the address comes from a public domain source, so they don't have to attribute. But in that case that data could be imported to osm as well.

Or they pay for another source. I never met such a thing there yet.

[–] thirdBreakfast@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Look up the same home address on the OpenStreetMap web page, then you'll know if there's something magic in Magic Earth or if the issue is with Organic Maps.

Magic Earth does uses other sources (for example Wikipedia) for location sources, so it's possible they are using some other database since they're (Magic Lane's) business is selling developer tooling for this sort of thing.