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[–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I can't wait for my first chance to ask someone the following:

"I have three questions: 1. What does 'Democracy' mean? 2. What does 'Republic' mean? 3. What is your point?"

[–] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  1. Face to the wall or back?

  2. Would you like a cigarette?

  3. Any last words?

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[–] HowMany@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago

Wow. This jackoff needs to go right now. That didn't take long. Isn't about time for Mr. Smith to start indicting these fuckers for treason?

[–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good luck with that Johnson, you absolute fucking moron.

Let's see how far your far-right bullshit gets you.

The American people are sick and tired of your dysfunctional inability to get anything done.

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[–] Senuf@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago

Also this, for fuck's sake!

[–] monolift@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I’m seeing lots of ‘New Speaker is [insert whatever you want that’s against humans in general] (maybe a slight over-exaggeration, but it doesn’t feel like it) But can anyone ELI5 how you all ended up in this state, and how you get back out? What’s the impact of this individual being Speaker?

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

But can anyone ELI5 how you all ended up in this state

First off, the US government has always been full of absolute ghouls and clowns. That said, the well-being of the typical american has been on a downward trend for a while, and people are seeking radical change. This isn't really new, Obama ran on change in 2008 (and then governed like a Republican, alienating voters), and Trump obviously did the same, though in a more unhinged clownish way in 2016. Biden only won a (very narrow) victory in 2020 because Trump was so openly disgusting, helped by mishandling of COVID being an obvious giant talking point.

how you get back out?

The various alphabet agencies, national guard, and police forces have to be purged and reformed at all levels nationwide, then various actions (political arrests and blackmail, mostly) taken that effectively decapitate and dismantle the republican party while being subtle enough that they don't cause armed rebellion. This would require the dems to be ideologically opposed to fascism, which they aren't (see their support for Israel as one easy example).

What’s the impact of this individual being Speaker?

Nothing too special, the government probably gets shut down at some point when they try to hold funding hostage, but at the end of the day business as usual (which is, to be clear, very bad) continues apace.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fortunately, not a whole lot.

If Democrats control the Senate.

And if he can be removed in 2024.

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[–] D3FNC@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

Our government was designed, probably not intentionally but it is possible, to not work.

Currently it's not working so we can't do anything unless the president orders it, which isn't how shit is supposed to work but now has precedent.

American exceptionalism strikes again

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[–] M68040@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I am not interested at having to let guys like this shove me around at literally any point in time for literally any reason, god or no

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[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hate how we only find out about these fuckshits AFTER they come to power.

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[–] repungnant_canary@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Americans don't learn on their own faults, do they... After electing a complete idiot and criminal for a president, they give the house majority to the same party that chose Trump as their candidate (twice!) It's absolutely not surprising to me that the party that had Trump as its candidate twice, now appointed this moron as a speaker. But Americans could learn on their own faults...

[–] Button777777@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

"Americans dont learn on their faults do they". Every single one? You really believe 100% of americans are voting for this shit? Do you see our current president???

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[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

Thomas Jefferson isn't real, ya'll.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So, uh, what are you doing here then?

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[–] Senuf@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I've read somewhere else a book recommendation, and after having read it I can recommend it to you:

"Christian Nation" is an alternate history novel by Frederick Rich about the USA turned into a wholly fanatical theocracy with the necessary amendments to the constitution for it to be lawful and everything else.

From the description in one of those online book-selling websites:

"They said what they would do, and we did not listen. Then they did what they said they would do."

So ends the first chapter of this brilliantly readable counterfactual novel, reminding us that America’s Christian fundamentalists have been consistently clear about their vision for a "Christian Nation" and dead serious about acquiring the political power to achieve it. When President McCain dies and Sarah Palin becomes president, the reader, along with the nation, stumbles down a terrifyingly credible path toward theocracy, realizing too late that the Christian right meant precisely what it said.

In the spirit of Philip Roth’s The Plot Against America, one of America’s foremost lawyers lays out in chilling detail what such a future might look like: constitutional protections dismantled; all aspects of life dominated by an authoritarian law called "The Blessing," enforced by a totally integrated digital world known as the "Purity Web." Readers will find themselves haunted by the questions the narrator struggles to answer in this fictional memoir: "What happened, why did it happen, how could it have happened?"

Edit: I've read it in epub format on my phone.

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[–] Bread@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

The house will decide your fate.

I AM the house!

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