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[–] nodsocket@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I've always wondered why Marxists can't explain themselves without writing an entire novel. I just want the tldr

[–] yetAnotherUser@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Tldr Marxists believe in a classless, moneyless and stateless society bc they think that would be ~~utopia~~ an objectively morally superior system of government

Thanks for the correction @sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No well read Marxist believes communism to be utopian in any way. They only see it as an objectively morally superior system of government that provides for its workers rather than providing workers for it's ruling class.

[–] yetAnotherUser@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks, I didn't know

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It would be. Shame they also advocate for unchecked violence to achieve that utopia, though.

[–] Maven@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unlike the current unchecked violence to keep capitalism in place.

Oh, it's checked alright. Just not by people whose interests align with yours or mine.

[–] ssfckdt@mastodon.cloud 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

this is a "tell me you don't know without telling me" moment

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

TLDR: capitalism not good

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It depends on the question. If you ask something like "what can be done about homelessness", the answer wouldn't be more than a couple paragraphs. If the question is "why is homelessness", you're very rightfully going to get a short novel.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you want the tldr on why homelessness, the answer is you can't extort people for housing unless they're afraid of losing it.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

or, more broadly speaking, capitalism