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[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 1 points 2 minutes ago

"I affirm your identity! You're free to be who you are without shame! As you die in a cardboard box under a freeway of exposure for failing to be exploited well enough, and as an intentional threat to the other poories to keep laboring for their corpo bribers. 🀷

Ooh, but here, have a ribbon! I hear they're quite tasty when boiled."

The power of the status quo flows through me

[–] Metric@lemmy.zip 19 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Support more progressive democrats like AOC and Bernie

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.ml 2 points 18 minutes ago
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

That won't fix things, though. The Democratic party can't go against its base, the bourgeoisie, it acts like a great filter. An actual worker party, like PSL, needs to be built up and supported instead.

[–] PNWKid@lemm.ee 3 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Bernie has literally stated that he only runs as a Dem because of the 2 party system and would otherwise be an independent which is the case with most progressives.

Turning up your nose at 2 perfectly good candidates in favor of some non-existent hypothetical candidate is crazy.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.ml 1 points 13 minutes ago

Bernie, the guy who refuses to call the Palestinian genocide a genocide? This marvelous tweet Bernie? https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/d200e7bc-08c9-4b63-954b-0a7973050cc3.jpeg Bernie the supporter of about every US regime war?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 58 minutes ago (1 children)

Correct, Bernie's strategy also hasn't worked. As a Communist I don't consider Bernie and AOC to be "perfectly good," and the 2 party system itself needs to be overthrown in order to be fixed, which isn't happening at the ballot box either.

[–] poke@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 minutes ago* (last edited 10 minutes ago) (1 children)

Bernie and those like him have informed me and many others of what a good politician can look like and may have inspired others like AOC to start their career. I will support them as much as I can because they may inspire even more like them to actually have enough people to make a meaningful change in the party or, if we miraculously get away from the two party system, spin up a new one.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 minutes ago

Bernie certainly isn't as bad as, say, Fetterman, but he has his fair share of bad policy (especially foreign policy, which ends up just being justification for US Imperialism), and due to how the 2 party system works the Democrats will never be able to truly be "taken over" by progressives, as that would hurt their donor-base, the bourgeoisie. A genuine worker party is necessary, but it will not be capable of being reformist, it must be revolutionary, ie PSL.

[–] Commiunism@beehaw.org 20 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

It goes against their interests to promote class consciousness, same applies to any electoral party (even those considering themselves on the left), not just the dems or liberal parties of Europe. Class consciousness develops outside the electoral system.

[–] EstonianGuy@lemm.ee 10 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Yup, rich exist in both sides of the political spectrum. The war between the right and the left is there to distract from the more important class war.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 hours ago

The existence of class war is a Leftist stance, are you referring to Democrats as the "left" or Leftists as the left? I agree that political theater is a distraction, but this wording is confusing.

[–] El_Scapacabra@lemm.ee 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It's a big club, and we're not in it.

[–] Edie@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

It's actually a small club, and we could make our own big club with healthcare and housing

[–] El_Scapacabra@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

And blackjack and hookers?

[–] VeldtSchema@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Everyone is seeing for their own interests. We really need people in power that HATE being in a power.

[–] EstonianGuy@lemm.ee 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, politicians get paid pennies compared to CEO-s with massive risks, why would any intelligent & honest person consider being a politician. Cold fact is, being an honest politician is the worst employment opportunity ever.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 20 minutes ago)

I hold true to the notion that a representative government with representatives selected at random would be much better then what we have.

There would still be appointed positions but replace most elected posistions with a lottery and go from there.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 37 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] voldage@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Doubting that this is the case, seeing how they are trying to push back against protests against Republicans, is just delusional. I refuse to believe them to be so incompetent, that they constantly act against their own interests and boost MAGA message instead. Bernie gets way more attention from the public than everything they are doing right now combined, and they barely acknowledge he exists.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 minutes ago

They deliberately act incompetent. And they have the same interests as the other side of the uniparty since they have the same donors and are ment to serve them, not the public.
And it's not their own controlled opposition Bernie that they want to shut up or furiously andsuddenly competently work to get off the ballots, but real left 3rd party candidates.
They have their Bernies and squad members for the sole reason to keep their voters running away from them.

[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 117 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (27 children)

The Republicans are a mass shooter massacring children inside a school

The Democrats are the Uvalde police department

They're just standing around holding their dicks LETTING it happen completely unopposed.

[–] socialjusticewizard@sh.itjust.works 34 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Best analogy I've seen so far, thanks so much.

[–] proper@lemmy.world 22 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

they aren’t the first person to say that i’ve seen this week, but they are the first person i’ve seen pass it off as their own.

I hadn't read it as "theirs", I assume they heard it somewhere and are repeating it just as I plan to do.

[–] takeda@lemm.ee 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Not all of them, but yeah you're right.

[–] meekah@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago

Everything is an over generalization. Nothing is black and white. Only a sith deals in absolutes.

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[–] doug 43 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

At this point it feels like they were only ever there to give the illusion of choice.

[–] Kaput@lemmy.world 19 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

It seems pretty clear to me. Just suggesting that people who were advocating for that third party lady had some valid point and should at least be heard got me downcited to hell. Not saying people should voye for her, just saying listen to people who do vote for her get their point. This instant reaction to third party let me believe that choice is the last thing the system wants. Even after the election the idea of New parties kept being ridiculed, even though it would be the best time to push for it. I'm not saying that dr last is the right person. But you need options.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago

Even after the election the idea of New parties kept being ridiculed, even though it would be the best time to push for it.

They've been doing this in particular for at least 24 years, since the 2000 election. It has been obvious that FPTP needs to go this entire time. And still only a handful of Democrats oppose it.

When election season rolls around, they'll say that you just started and should wait for a more convenient season. They'll tell you that the third party isn't built up enough yet, and should go from 0 to 51% votes as all spherical voters coordinate perfectly.

They'll tell you to "push for" all sorts of stuff without actually holding anyone accountable. Just protest with a sign that says "I'll still vote for you but pretty please change".

[–] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 11 hours ago

Always was.

[–] jimbel@lemm.ee 3 points 8 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Democrats talk big game, but somehow always seem to be too weak to get anything done. However, when it comes to suppressing the Left and trying to prevent worker radicalization, they are mysteriously competent in comparison.

[–] fatur0000new@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

However, when it comes to suppressing the Left and trying to prevent worker radicalization, they are mysteriously competent in comparison.

I think this is because of FDR

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Not really, it's more caused by being a mainstream party in a bourgeois democracy.

[–] fatur0000new@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

That's one of the reasons. Another reason is FDR painted Democratic Party as party for the workers with his social policies when served as president

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 hours ago

Kinda? That wasn't because of FDR, more it was a response to increasing Communist sympathies as a way to prevent revolution. FDR was responding to the political climate, it wasn't a decision made out of context.

When republicans are in power democrats are powerless because they are in the minority When democrats are in power they somehow are still powerless to do anything meaning full because "republican are preventing " them from doing anything The only time they seem to be able to do something is to crush any attempt to change the status quo in favor of the working class.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 26 points 14 hours ago

The tyranny of small donors has left me scarred and deformed.

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