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    [–] glimse@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    We are not the same because I can spell the word "because" correctly

    [–] skqweezy@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Sorry, I'm not a native speaker, and also it's partly beacuse of me fat fingering my phone's keyboard

    [–] glimse@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

    It's all right I was just poking some friendly fun

    [–] GigglyBobble@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

    Beacuse me?

    [–] aswinbenny@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

    I started using Linux because of my low spec computer. Now I won't go back to windows

    [–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    does it have WiFi? My mom's toaster has wifi.

    [–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I'm not a teapot.

    [–] skqweezy@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    no it doesn't (and I'm more happy that it doesn't, it would be slow as shit anyway)

    [–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

    Yeah. The thing freaks me out. Pretty sure it voted in the midterm

    [–] rkk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Was the latter, used Linux because my computer sucked. So it was for some four years.

    Once I got a real computer... Going back to Windows hurt. But I stuck to it because gaming.

    As soon as Proton/DXVK started maturing, I knew I'd go full Linux forever.

    [–] Oha@lemmy.ohaa.xyz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    As soon as Proton/DXVK started maturing

    Wdym? Both are pretty mature imo

    [–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago

    They "started maturing" like quite a few years ago, so yeah.

    [–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    Remember guys. It's not your PC that's sluggish, it's Windows that is.
    Every Windows release gets more and more sluggish, that's why minimum system requirements keep going up. While Linux minimum system requirements stays about the same.

    [–] ipsirc@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

    s/Windows/webpages/g

    [–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago

    I don't use Linux cause I want to, I use linux cause I hate windows more, we ain't the same either sis

    [–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 year ago

    My current desktop outperforms many windows machines and has been doing so for nearly ten years because Linux.

    For current standards it's borderline a potatoe. And the damn thing won't call it quits.

    [–] dan@upvote.au 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    Friendly reminder that Debian still has an i686 build that in theory supports processors as old as the Pentium 4, and they only dropped their i586 build (that went back to the original Pentium) this year.

    [–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Debian sometimes feels like the system that will run on a salad bowl powered by two potatoes and a pickled cucumber.

    The range of architectures it supports is mindboggling.

    [–] dan@upvote.au 5 points 1 year ago

    It's definitely awesome.

    Interestingly/amazingly, it doesn't support all the architectures that the kernel supports. The kernel still supports 486 processors, although modern Linux on a 486 would actually be extremely slow since all the modern CPU capabilities/extensions are missing. There was talk about removing 486 support last year (increasing the minimum CPU for the Linux kernel up to the Pentium 1) but I don't think that's actually gone anywhere yet.

    [–] ipsirc@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Jessie was the last Debian release which supported i586, the support was dropped in 2016. https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2016/05/msg00001.html

    [–] dan@upvote.au 1 points 1 year ago

    Ah, my mistake. Thanks for the correction :)

    [–] lingh0e@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Aside from bragging rights... is there a reason why someone would still be working on a Pentium 4?

    [–] dan@upvote.au 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    It's probably mostly legacy systems for things like industrial automation.

    You can actually still buy industrial motherboards with ISA and PCI slots, for both older CPUs (like the Pentium 4) and newer CPUs (like modern-ish Core i3/i5/i7). There's also clone CPUs that behave the same as older ones.

    A lot of industrial systems are big, expensive, last a long time, and were designed for use with particular hardware, which is why there's a pretty decent market for clones of old hardware.

    Having said that... I'm not sure they'd use a newer operating system on these systems. The OS they run is likely 20 years old too. So... To answer your question, I'm not sure. Retro hardware enthusiasts tend to use an OS from the same time period.

    [–] BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I have a Pentium 4 line PC that I use for work. It’s actually a Xeon but same architecture. It has the only board I could find with USB 3 and SATA 3. Thing is a beast. Threw a 970 in it for a while while I didn’t have a gaming pc, and I had no problems playing (2017) contemporary games at 1080p60 in almost all cases.

    I still use it as my repo for schematics and as the body to my over desk displays. I’ll probably keep it for another few years at least. It works great.

    [–] eruchitanda@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I started partially because of the second, now I'd never go back.

    (The main reason was Windows update that made me lose a full month of work.)

    [–] Crow@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

    I use Linux because windows legitimately giving me anxiety about having to use my computer for anything.

    [–] fl42v@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Well, it's not like I want to (although I do), it's just that customizing whatever else is there on the market to my liking is either impossible or requires more time that I care to spend.

    Also, depends on devices. Not like I could install something else on a smartwatch with half a gig of ram, for example :)

    [–] skqweezy@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, I have my Lxqt desktop customised a bit like different icons and fonts, although I'd like to more (the pc having 3gb of ram is a serious limit).

    Specifically beacuse I want to have different layout compared to windows beacuse it's a bit (well probably more than that) bad, especially the windows 11 one, I got to try that one out at my school).

    When I get a new computer I definitely want to try and install a different distro to try out the customisation.

    [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Right... The only reason you use faster more secure software is...you have to?

    [–] skqweezy@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Well, I kinda dig this, I'm using lubuntu and it's certainly better in some ways than windows, and I couldn't play games on this thing anyway so it's not like I'm loosing functionality, when I get a new pc I'll certainly install some different distro and try it out

    [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Gotcha.

    I just installed lubuntu on an old laptop this weekend actually. It ran like a top but for me that desktop environment is clunky so I ended up using Fedora on that machine and so far it is working well. That machine has only a 32 gb HD.. so my options were limited.

    I like gnome a lot personally, and one distro I've had a lot of luck with that comes with gnome by default is pop_os, so I would recommend that when you upgrade! Just as a generally well configured (and still lightweight when compared to windows) distro. Just about anything that supports Ubuntu runs on it without much if any fuss too