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as an american, i am fully in support of france saying 'fuck you' to the usa.

[โ€“] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 15 points 8 hours ago

The French should demand payback for the military and financial aid given to the colonials from 1775 to 1783. Putin's Sock Puppet does not hold the cards for that one.

[โ€“] 474D@lemmy.world 78 points 12 hours ago

Ok this is the pettiness I'm here for lmao

[โ€“] Wytch@lemmy.zip 114 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Is that the one that says "give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free"?

Yeah we're not using it.

[โ€“] AJ1@lemmy.ca 24 points 11 hours ago

"Give us your water, your precious metals, your rare-earth minerals. Give us all your shit or risk invasion."

[โ€“] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 36 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I agree. We've failed to live up the the aspirations that statue represents.

[โ€“] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 2 hours ago

I always wondered about how that monument in Civilisations games lets you change government type with no turns lost to riots

I guess we get to see if that works IRL

[โ€“] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 4 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

It was written by the French in the first place unless I misunderstood the history.

[โ€“] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 13 points 11 hours ago

Perhaps the statue should be more of a trophy, moved from nation to nation depending on how focused that nation is on creating opportunity for the least among us, how accepting they are of the poor, tired, and broken peoples of the world, how committed they are to escalating the cause of human dignity.

[โ€“] NABDad@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

Saying "written" suggests to me that you're referring to the sonnet, "The New Colossus", which was inspired by the statue the French made, but was written by an American poet, Emma Lazarus.

[โ€“] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 14 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Where else are they going to put the huge, gilded statue of Trump?

[โ€“] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 4 points 2 hours ago

โ€œGive me your rich, your wealthy,
Your crass oligarchs yearning for tax-free status,
The corrupt billionaires of your teeming shore.
Send these, the non-domiciled well-to-does to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden toilet!โ€

I mean, he's got a point.

[โ€“] cdf12345@lemm.ee 33 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[โ€“] superkret@feddit.org 94 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (4 children)

I hope we can some day reach a state of politics that aren't purely performative in nature.
Where policy is made to address an issue of the contituency, not to dunk on opponents or generate media attention.

[โ€“] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 15 points 10 hours ago

Very hard disagree. Hearts and minds.

Dafuq else do you expect a random French opposition member to do? Sit there quietly and look pretty? That seems to be the leading strategy for the US Dems and also an irredeemable dereliction of duty. If you are forced into the opposition, be performative. Be loud. Be ungovernable, if necessary.

It's nice to wish for a world where a fascist regime doesn't have full control of the USA, but unfortunately we don't live in that world so please don't denigrate the work of politicians who at least are doing the bare minimum of saying something about it.

[โ€“] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 25 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I agree, but at the same time politics these days are necessarily intertwined with social media and it's culture.

[โ€“] youCanCallMeDragon@lemmy.world 16 points 14 hours ago

Politics is just the entertainment branch of the military

[โ€“] latenightnoir@lemmy.world 12 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I do agree with you that politics have become mostly circus without much bread, but I'd say we should never give up on our gift of making light of the hardships.

I mean, dunk as it may be, it's a good one. I'd even go as far as calling it a sick burn and a smart jab!

Edit: plus populism is the playing field now, memes and smartass quips are how you win the base over. I'm not saying I agree with this particular way of going about things, but reality is undeniable nonetheless. We'd be wise to master the tools.

[โ€“] NotLemming@lemm.ee 10 points 11 hours ago

Swap it for a guillotine

[โ€“] peteyestee@feddit.org 25 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[โ€“] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 8 hours ago

Would be great if France then gifted it to SA.

[โ€“] DmMacniel@feddit.org 20 points 16 hours ago

It would only be fair, and the ego of Trump would shatter into billion parts.

[โ€“] vesi@lemm.ee 9 points 14 hours ago

The liberty is no longer Where it was expected to be

[โ€“] Jhuskindle@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Good idea. We haven't stood for what it represented since... ever really.

[โ€“] zqps@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

There was a time when it was a solid deal for white Europeans.

[โ€“] Jonas@mastodon.nl 6 points 16 hours ago

@neme @europe would be hella funny ngl