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[โ€“] Darkmoon_UK@lemm.ee 134 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (12 children)

Weird hill to die on perhaps; but I'll never forgive Microsoft for arbitrarily deciding to not support my Core i7 6700K 4Ghz CPU on Windows 11.

Simply because: I cannot find a single actual technical reason why it wouldn't be compatible (yes, my mobo also has TPM). It's even higher specced than many other 'supported' chips.

MS apparently just decided I hadn't spent enough money lately. Well now I won't - on your products - ever again, while this i7 will continue to run Win 10 for games and Linux for all else.

[โ€“] Soleos@lemmy.world 12 points 17 hours ago

In the same boat with the same CPU. The beast is running Cyberpunk 2077 fairly well at 1440p with a DLSS/ray tracing card but it can't run Windows 11 ๐Ÿ™„๐Ÿ™„๐Ÿ™„

[โ€“] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 50 points 1 day ago (16 children)

Gaming is great on Linux nowadays btw. I installed Fedora a few weeks ago and haven't had a single problem with any of my games - I'm getting better framerates, too.

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[โ€“] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 18 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

assuming you use steam, see which of your favorite games run with proton compatability layer and which absolutely require windows. You may be suprised.

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[โ€“] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 26 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

What a coincidence - I stopped supporting it too!

[โ€“] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 20 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I said from the beginning that the tpm 2.0 requirement was a way to make people buy new pc's. Good news for me who wants a laptop upgrade.

[โ€“] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 13 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

Or get a new laptop and switch to Linux!

[โ€“] beastlykings@sh.itjust.works 9 points 17 hours ago

That's what I'm doing. Framework for the win

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[โ€“] limelight79@lemm.ee 1 points 10 hours ago

I have a computer in the basement that I pretty much only use for Zwift (an online cycling game). For whatever reason it doesn't have that TPM chip, despite the fact that I bought it in 2021 or so. So it won't upgrade to Win 11.

But...it turns out Zwift runs great under WINE....so now it runs Debian with WINE. (Which probably wasn't my best choice - should have gone with something a little more up to date - but it does work.)

[โ€“] deadcatbounce@reddthat.com 18 points 20 hours ago

You should have thrown Windows away at the beginning of the century.

[โ€“] gabbath@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

For people who still need Windows:

I have a 10-year-old Surface Pro 4 and I was able to freely upgrade to Windows 11 and it works fine. It wasn't technically supported but I enabled preview builds or something like that (I think I had to enable the Insider program) and it showed up as a Windows Update. I don't know if this is applicable to all PCs that don't support Win 11, but surely it's applicable to some of them that Windows says don't support Win 11.

[โ€“] HunterLF@lemmy.zip 6 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (3 children)

Yes, it's known that it is possible to do that, but Windows 11 has TPU 2.0 requirements for a reason. As they say, it's for security. In my opinion, if you have to jump through so many hoops and loops to use a damn OS, just to use it as a home desktop or to use old tech, just move to Linux. You have Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Fedora KDE, Steam OS (not yet fully out), and many more. For a beginner who came from Windoes, I recommend Linux Mint. If you already have a Steam deck, for example, I recommend Bazzite (it's non-imutable) or Fedora KDE Plasma.

Edit: Sorry if I came out harsh, I didn't mean to sound like that, I just feel frustrated at how shit Windoes has turned in too

[โ€“] gabbath@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Ah, no worries. I'm just sharing for folks who might need Windows for one reason or another. It's a one time thing to upgrade either way, not a hassle at all. They might own weird niche unrepairable devices like my SP4 which may not handle Linux well or who knows. For clean installs there's that nifty place with serial keys and builds whose name I forget right now.

As for Linux, I'm kinda torn. I had my time tinkering with config files in the early 2000s in the days of Fedora Core 3 and KDE 3.x before all this Plasma stuff. The whole "year of the Linux desktop" that never came left me disillusioned, although I did enjoy the Compiz/Beryl days. It's probably better now but I'm too comfortable nowadays. We'll see if things get dire enough that I need to jump ship again, I hope not.

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[โ€“] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

i run nobara (a fedora spinoff) for a few months now, and it's a great experience, i learn a lot about how the os works and it's all visible! i feel like i modded my pc into a transparent machine - i can read up about simply every part of the os. i freakin love it :-D and all this while i can use it as before.

my last experience with linux was debian jessie - i was not so happy with that, and after i landed in dependency hell for the first time, i switched back. nowadays, with flatpaks and appimages, all those issues i was having in normal operation are gone.

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[โ€“] BigTrout75@lemmy.world 201 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Isn't Windows 10 suppose to be the last Windows release? We changed our minds.

[โ€“] Yoga@lemmy.ca 165 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Correction: it's MY last Windows release. I invite it to be yours too.

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[โ€“] Kualdir@feddit.nl 71 points 1 day ago (71 children)

Time to encourage people to switch to Linux instead

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[โ€“] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Before you recycle your Windows 10 PC (or just switch to Linux and avoid wasting resources), keep in mind while Windows 10 22H2 is ending in 7 months, 21H2 LTSC Enterprise is still good for 1 year 10 months:

https://endoflife.date/windows

To download the 21H2 LTSC, go here:

https://archive.org/details/en-us_windows_10_enterprise_ltsc_2021_x64_202301

Then generate a free license key using the Ohook or KMS38 methods via PowerShell as explained here:

https://massgrave.dev/

Disclaimer: I haven't tried this myself so there may be some bugs/issues along the way. For my next laptop, I'm thinking about switching to Linux and specifically Ubuntu or Fedora, so this won't really impact me

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[โ€“] Goretantath@lemm.ee 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Ltsc iot win10 is supported for years to come ๐Ÿดโ€โ˜ ๏ธ

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[โ€“] ch00f@lemmy.world 94 points 1 day ago (11 children)

"Trade it"

TO FUCKING WHOM? The whole point is that you made it useless.

(Unless this is Microsoft providing some free advertising for Linux)

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[โ€“] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

Haven't had mine online for 4 years now and it still chugs along

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