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Start a new political party, the 'American Progressive Majority'. (i.redd.it)

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Time to break free of traditional political ideological labeling and divisions. Time to abandon old, divisive sociopolitical labels like "liberal" and "conservative".

A new political party based on a vastly, commonly held virtures lends itself to embrace over 66% of Americans, and it clearly embraces progressive principled thinking. In the most ideal American sense of unity, a political party should not be able to be defined or placed as "to the left" or "to the right" of where the Democratic or Republican parties currently are. Just let it exist organically based on present-day principled thinking. The American Progressive Majority.

Originally Posted By u/Atlanticbboy At 2025-03-23 04:38:18 AM | Source

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[–] gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com 27 points 6 days ago (26 children)

it's wild that only 55% of you guys want a fairer health care system

[–] underwire212@lemm.ee 11 points 6 days ago (4 children)

It’s because the phrase “Medicare for all” has been propagandized. If you instead asked if people wanted “affordable medical treatment and preventative care for themselves and others”, I’m sure that number would be much higher.

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[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago

70% couldn't ve bothered voting knowing it meant democracy's end

Good intentions are important Americans, but you cannot make the world a better place just by having good intentions and navel gazing

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Clearly people aren't voting the same way they're answering surveys. I don't see how forming a new party will make that happen.

[–] Ronno@feddit.nl 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I observe the same thing here in The Netherlands. In theory, democracy should work best for the working class majority. In practice, people somehow tend to vote for something not in their own self interest.

Wonderful example is the area where I live, our town shares a border with a Belgian town. Most people do groceries on one side of the border, go to the bar on the other side. In essence, we operate as one town that happens to be in two countries. Ask anyone in the street if they are open to a "Nexit" from the EU, most will say a hard: "No".

Then look at the election results, the party in favor of a Nexit became the largest party, also in the town I live. It's wild that people vote different to what they believe in. If you then ask them: why did you vote for this party, because it contrasts your earlier answer. People will say: "Yeah, but it won't come to that". Then I look at Brexit and it's exactly how that cluster fuck happened.

My brain simply cannot process this idiocracy.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

I think the key is the term "informed electorate". As Trump said, "I love the uneducated!"

[–] FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Yeah, that’s a very succinct way to put it.

[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 9 points 6 days ago

The current two party system doesn't represent what the majority wants. Both parties work for the super wealthy. Until we get rid of the Democratic and Republican parties nothing good will happen.

[–] Necroscope0@lemm.ee 10 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Our entire US system is set up to make it so that it is essentially (literally) impossible for a third party to win. This article gives a decent basic overview of why: https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4947662-why-a-third-party-presidential-candidate-can-never-win/

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

I am glad my state somewhat backs is claim of being independent by keeping RCV. Still voted for trump though, but at least that's something besides laying down for the party that tells us we are to stupid for ranked choice

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

How we vote is controlled at the state level. We don't need federal reform to change how we count votes to make 3rd parties able to participate without a spoiler effect.

Alaska has passed these reforms, so can your state. Unless of course your state representatives don't support democracy.

Electoral Reform Videos

First Past The Post voting (What most states use now)

Videos on alternative electoral systems

Single Transferable Vote

Mixed Member Proportional representation

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago

as long as you don't start passing anti FPTP voting laws in democratic states first, you'll be fine, you do it in democratic states and you lose votes, overwhelmingly.

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[–] Rin@lemm.ee 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Then fucking vote like it

[–] 5parky@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Yup. Vote for a turd taco or a shit sandwich. That's all we get the choice for anymore.

[–] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Any party that tries to be created with populism but ignores the materialist analyist of how we got to this point and how to combat reactionary thinking and regressivism (which is conservatism, which is why its a universal flaw) will only fall to the same tactics and pitfalls that have led us to this division in the first place. We need a true worker's parry that understands that division of power and group interests lay on class lines (capitalists vs workers) and not on any of the manufacturered scapegoat ones. Progressive ideas are popular yes, but they need to come with actual systematic analysis or they will just morph into right-wing populism through lack of critical thinking and bad actors.

[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Can working families be that?

Wfp

[–] Ougie@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Aside from everything else, only 55% want universal healthcare and only 76% want higher minimum wages? That seems surprisingly low. I would think that everyone would want higher wages - starting from the lowest paid...

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago

If there are so many people thinking this way, then where are they? Where are the mass protests about rights being trampled, services being taken away and converted into money for the rich?

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