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I sometimes lose typed text due to form issues, accidental edits/deletions, etc. and am really interested in any running keylogger for Android phones. Thanks for any help or ideas!

Wow, the attacks here are unbelievably disappointing. Why would I lie about this? Has none of you ever lost any typed text ever? Someone even had the audacity to say it exists but refuse to say where...

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[–] RandoCalrandian@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Keyloggers are malware and malicious by default, even for your own use.

Look into clipboard managers, and you can save/paste history more easily. Do not pursue keyloggers, they will leak all your secure passwords.

[–] Dymonika@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I made one in AutoHotkey for Windows (or, rather, edited an existing script that was out there on the AHK forums). As long as you understand how it works and that it's totally offline, you're fine. It's saved my hide numerous times and one for Android would be tremendously helpful.

I'm inquiring in an open-source community for a reason...

[–] RandoCalrandian@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
  1. you question looks like Hilary's aid asking "How do i permanently delete emails from a hard drive", so is sus on it's own and i have 0% trust that you have a valid use case for this

  2. literally every use case you have or could mention is solved in a better way. Pursuing the avenue you are currently on is a security vulnerability. It's like asking a lockmaking group "Hey, how can i have my keys copied automatically so i don't ever forget them again? And have them printed to a shelf right next to the front door"

So even if you are being genuine, any sense of a duty of care to an internet stranger compels me to tell you to not do this

[–] Dymonika@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

literally every use case you have or could mention is solved in a better way.

Why don't you share them, then? Until you actually share a possible solution, you may as well just answer, "It's not possible." I haven't heard or found anything that is 100% passive.

The whole point of it is for it to have your back when you're not expecting any issues, such as in comments like this. Imagine if you typed everything in that massive response just now, but lost it one sentence short of submission, somehow, in one way or another. That is exactly the situation I'm looking to defeat. I can do it on Windows already through an AutoHotkey script that I have for myself, but nothing exists for Android that functions in this same way. The thing can be under a password/lock when trying to view the logged keystrokes; that'd be fine and welcome. It could even delete everything after a single wrong entry. So why is everyone coming down so hard on me? It's been genuinely helpful every now and then on PC.

[–] RandoCalrandian@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

How about obsidian and you paste in messages after you've drafted them out?

with this to recover anything missed in a copy?

That autohotkey script could lose you your job, your retirement funds, your savings... it's just not worth it when there are secured solutions around if you could manage a little change in behavior

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

It's called Gboard.

Nice try, NSA.

[–] sevenism@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Dymonika@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Interesting app! Thank you very much; you're the only respondent who provided a direct example so far.

Must be, check github

[–] Penguincoder@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Dymonika@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Penguincoder@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Dymonika@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then why even respond? Isn't FOSS all about helping each other?

[–] Penguincoder@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No.

the terms "free software" and "open source software" should be applied to any "software products distributed under terms that allow users" to use, modify, and redistribute the software "in any manner they see fit, without requiring that they pay the author(s) of the software a royalty or fee for engaging in the listed activities."

[–] Dymonika@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't understand why you would bold-face that part and not "in any manner they see fit," because that sure seems to be more relevant to what you're invoking here.

[–] Penguincoder@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

Assisting you in finding, installing, and configuring key logging software is not within the manner I see fit. I don't have access to such software and thus cannot share such with you in any manner. Of the software I do have and know of which can do what you're asking, It is not in my manner to share it with you.

Therefore, I am doing what I see fit. Others might feel differently. However when it comes to open source software, you said:

Isn't FOSS all about helping each other?

I say; no. Free software is I don't want to pay for Adobe. open source software is about having the freedom to change software to your purpose and being free to distribute those changes, without compensation required and without legal troubles.

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