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Apple Argued Safari Is Three Different Browsers to Avoid Regulation (www.macrumors.com)

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Apple Argued Safari Is Three Different Browsers to Avoid Regulation::Apple recently claimed that Safari is three different browsers in effort to avoid regulation in the European Union (via The Register). The claim...

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[–] Wootz@lemmy.world 135 points 1 year ago

"The European Commission went on to point out that Safari's functionality and underlying technologies are near-identical across platforms. The Commission even highlights Apple's own marketing materials for its Continuity feature, which appear to contradict the company's claims, touting the tag line "Same Safari. Different device." As a result, the Commission rejected Apple's claim and insists that "Safari qualifies as a single web browser, irrespective of the device through which that service is accessed.""

Chef's Kiss

Governments and stately instances so rarely have a proper grasp of technology. This is beautiful.

[–] sfgifz@lemmy.world 66 points 1 year ago (2 children)

On example cited by Apple is Safari's sidebar feature on iPadOS and macOS, allowing users to see opened tabs, tab groups, bookmarks, and browsing history. Since this feature is unavailable in the version of Safari for iOS, Apple claimed that it is a distinctly different browser.

😂

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So they're also claiming iOS on an iPhone and iOS on an iPad are separate products? In for a penny, in for a pound, I guess.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

They did rename it to iPad OS, so yes

[–] TheMadnessKing@lemdro.id 3 points 1 year ago

Wow, then even chrome can claim that they don't support Extension ok Mobile thus it's different product. Big Brain Time from apple.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago

Safari
Safari Pro
Safari Pro Max

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

Apple claimed repairing your Mac with 3rd party parts turns it into a PC so you can't resell it as a Mac.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ah, there's where all the creativity went to.

[–] remer@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apple needs to allow non-webkit browsers on iOS.

[–] The_Cunt_of_Monte_Cristo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So iOS can be full of Chromium based browsers.

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

let's be honest, most people will still use safari. Just let people use Firefox, damn it

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Of course they did. Microsoft tried this in the 90's with Internet Explorer, Outlook, and Explorer. Sure, it does three different things, but it's the SAME THING.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Those are actually different things and always have been. I don't know what point you think you're making.

[–] privatizetwiddle@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago

I think the reference was to IE4 for Windows 95 and 98, which did in fact run the desktop and file manager functions with IE to enable web functionality. You could type a URL into the file manager path bar and use it as a web browser or use a web page as your desktop, IIRC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_4

[–] acow@programming.dev 11 points 1 year ago

“Are you getting it? These are three separate browsers.” - Anonymous

[–] danielfgom@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So much for "we care about your privacy"

We all know that was BS but the isheep sadly believe it.

[–] nix@merv.news 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What does this have to do with privacy

[–] danielfgom@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are trying to avoid regulation. That's super dodgy. They are trying to hide something. Since it's related to a browser, data collection must be what they want to regulate, and what Apple is trying to hide....

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You’re overthinking it.

Having 25% of the mobile browser market, and being more than half of the US mobile browser market means:

Apple can force companies like Google to pay tens of billions a year to be the default search engine.
Apple can force companies to ensure that their products are built and QA’ed with Apple’s platforms in mind. This was something Apple struggled with before the iPhone. Many Mac users will remember the days when certain websites and platforms simply didn’t work unless you were using IE for Windows.

It’s a play for partnership cash and, because Apple has always been a control freak, insurance that experiences on their platforms are right.

Edit: One more massive thing, but I can’t believe I forgot. Apples hold over the browser market means they can strong arm the industry into adopting Web standards that Apple wants.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago

I'm a big fan of Apple's products, but this is some serious bullshit. Fuck off.

[–] wanderingWhale@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Apple bullshittery again