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    [–] AugustWest@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

    Lol, what? This is suggesting window is simple?

    Linux is so much better in this regard.

    People don't see it because they have habits, but once you support both OS's, windows is full of bizarre quirks and nonsense.

    Heres the thing, it strongly depends what you mean by "simplification" and tbh im not sure that would be good for Linux. Im all in favor of adding accessibility features and making desktops more complete but sometimes complexity or being different is good. I love tiling for example, I love how comsic implemets tiling. However tiling isnt naturally intuitive to Windows users, does that mean we need to abandon it in favor of "simplification"? Do we need to abandon the system of distro maintained repos and package managers because "its too complicated"?

    I suppose my point is that we should make Linux more accessible by lowering the skill floor to use it but it should not and does not require lowering the skill ceiling for advanced users like me. I love the focus on TUI software and I love the terminal (that doesn't mean GUI software should get less love, it means I would rather not see TUI packages sacrificed).

    Furthermore I cannot speak for anyone but myself but I personally try to help people in matrix/discord chats and places like this. However sometimes I will come across someone whos use case doesn't fit Linux. Maybe they need a specific software, maybe they're using niche proprietary hardware that they need, but I personally refuse to suggest Linux to someone if it wont be good for them. If someone tells me "hey I use Linux but I need some software like adobe" I would suggest they reinstall Windows. In addition before I reccomend Linux to someone I tell them that Linux isnt Windows, I make it clear there are downsides that need to be taken with the upsides and sometimes things wont work exactly the same.

    TLDR: Im all for people using Linux, however we shouldn't lie to ourselves and others

    [–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 2 points 1 week ago

    This better be about the most obscure thing ever

    [–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    I’ve seen the exact same assholes in this community. They’ll argue on one hand that it’s not too complicated, then openly push back against any UI improvement because they don’t want more people moving into their niche. Gatekeeping turds.

    [–] AugustWest@lemm.ee -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

    Example? Why are there always people who can find these unicorns and I never seem to run into them.

    Or are you being extreme in calling gatekeeping because they feel they don't need the GUI, because it just works? Someone argued with me about how a GUI is necessary for everything and frankly it is the slowest way to convey information and the least accurate.

    But if YOU want a GUI, welcome to open source, and feel free to implement it.

    Point is, I don't think people are trying to gatekeep, or hold onto their niche, it just doesn't make sense or scratch their own itch.

    [–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    I’ve seen it in this very sub. But I’m not gonna hunt down the comments.

    [–] AugustWest@lemm.ee -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    You have seen, in this sub, about Linux Memes in your words: "Gatekeeping Turds ... who push back on UI improvements because they dont want people moving into their niche."

    Yeah. Right. This is exactly the place you have found a group of people who do not want you to make changes because they are defending... checks notes... the "niche" of open source software.

    Yeah, I am thinking this might be a you problem. And I am trying to say this in a nice way: anyone can made that change. Asking someone else to do it may get push back, but that is any software development. Effort vs reward. But to claim the want to hold onto a niche... in open source? Uh.. ok.

    [–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    No worry dude. You don’t have to believe it. Now that you’re gonna be blocked, you won’t even have to see it.

    [–] AugustWest@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

    Yeah. Blocked. A thing I have never done in 12 years at reddit or here.

    So this person doesn't want a conversation, and immediately goes to blocked while calling people names.

    Yep it is a them problem.

    And I always find it so strange, because when did people not be able to disagree? I have disagreed with some on on one topic and then found them in another forum being brilliant about that other thing.

    This blocked, I never want to see or talk to you again, is something so new to me.

    In the old days I would have just assume they are trolling. I am beginning to wonder if that isn't their plan afterall.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    If you don't like a particular piece of software move on to something else. It is entirely up to the dev since it is ultimately there project. They owe nothing to you and demanding things does nothing but annoy everyone.

    [–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

    I’m gonna point out the reluctance to improve the user experience to those who complain at the low number of user migrations. Try and stop me.

    [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (12 children)

    Fuck right off with that, whoever actually made this image. I am fed up with "simplification", which is actually making everything as dumb and as closed as possible

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    [–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

    You're good these days until you want to do anything nonstandard.

    By use case, the limited amount of things my parents do with their Future Shop still existed era Laptops got them comfortable with Fedora KDE pretty quickly.

    Coming to a Linux distro as a Windows power user? I had skill issues.

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