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[–] hedge_lord@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Why do I need to put guard rails on things? People can just choose to not fall off. All people are perfectly rational/knowledgeable and other physical pressures do not exist, so people must want to fall off of cliffs!

[–] hedge_lord@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (4 children)

There actually is no way to change this. We can't do anything about it because we're just too stupid. People create systems of violence, and there's just nothing that can be done to help that because there is no way to change that. No sir, no way at all. It's pointless to even try.

We are all sinners filled with sin so anything that we do is bad. There is no hope. Your grandmother is a virus actually.

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[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world -1 points 20 hours ago (14 children)

And capitalism is a creation of what?

Humans you say?

Your comic is shit

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[–] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (15 children)

We live in a religious society that promotes a culture of bigotry. Does this mean we shouldn’t blame bigots?

We live in a patriarchal society that doesn’t take violence against women seriously. Does this mean that wife beaters aren’t to blame?

We live in a capitalist society that promotes selfishness and greed. Does this mean we shouldn’t blame selfish people? (Which is most of them.)

We live in a racist society… etc.

You are responsible for your actions and your beliefs. Step one to improving our society is accepting the reality that most humans have a poor (nearly non-existent) relationship with morality. They’re easily swayed by fallacious arguments because they are irrational and stupid. These are empirical facts about human beings that we ignore (with memes like this) at our own peril.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

blame is a nearly useless concept

How about we start fixing the problems instead of pointing fingers

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[–] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (7 children)

Redirecting blame attributable to human foibles to an abstract concept like “capitalism” is shortsighted and self-defeating. Analogously, the problem over the last 10,000 years hasn’t been slavery (the concept); the problem has been slavers (their ignorance, psychopathy, and greed).

There’s no period in human history when people weren’t unfathomably stupid, because people are literally just animals (and many would happily end the world in order to get access to cheeseburgers). They make bad choices because the average person is not capable of moral deliberation. All hyperbole aside, this is an actual empirical fact.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago (10 children)

if the structure of society is set up in such a way that practically every action I need to take to keep myself fed and sheltered ultimately contributes to climate change, then it's fucking inane to say it is the fault of individuals being stupid.

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[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Plenty of bacteria and viruses are beneficial, and contribute to the overall health of their hosts.

If humans are diseases, then it is because through learned behaviors that we act in a deleterious manner towards the overall ecosystem. We are entirely capable of shifting those behaviors, of creating social structures that select for behaviors that promote co-existence and symbiosis with that ecosystem.

[–] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There are some symbiotic bacteria, but I'm unaware of any beneficial viruses. Their entire nature is to hijack cells to replicate themselves, typically resulting in the eventual death of the host cell.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

Researchers are looking into bacteriophage that infect gut bacteria. It seems that over time, the viruses select for and introduce genes to bacteria that play nice with our intestinal health, rather than run amok.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbvAaDN1bpE

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Who do you think made capitalism? Space aliens?

[–] Lumiluz@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If I'm not mistaken, Marx describes capital as "dead labour". So, to answer your question: who made capitalism? Vampires, zombies, liches. The undead.

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Marx certainly didn't see capitalism as merely metaphorical. Marx recognized that capitalism existed in material reality, that it was a system constructed and operated by real, flesh and blood human beings.

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