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[–] reflex@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Vegans create more than four times the noise pollution doe.

[–] NotAPenguin@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh no, people are vocal about stopping animal abuse and climate change, how terrible!

[–] Pdxbot@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Fully support stopping animal abuse and slowing climate change. Zero support for vegans and their tactics. Being from PDX, the land of angry aggressive vegans. They aren't getting anyone on their side with those attitudes.

[–] NotAPenguin@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I'm a vegan who isn't from Portland International Airport(???) and I probably don't share their tactics.

Condemning every vegan for something a few people do is silly.

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[–] smellythief@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I haven't clicked through, but I bet they meant "producing meat."

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago

Who gives a fuck about greenhouse gasses. All the creatures we create are our children, and all are owed the unconditional love and protection of their creators. The experiences of animals are real and matter. Their suffering is identical in nature to your own. It harms us when we take pleasure in cruelty and violence.

You work so hard to block out that simple reality. The destruction of climate, personal health, and ecosystems, those are all just incidental to the atrocity that we are committing on intelligent creatures. You cannot enjoy a cheeseburger or bacontho while you are watching Dominion. Your enjoyment is predicated on fucking DENIAL.

[–] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As usual, the title is clickbait. It's not "eating meat" that produces 4 times more greenhouse gases, it's a high-meat diet. Big difference that is conveniently left out of the title to get more clicks.

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[–] Classy@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Oh look, another article pointing the finger at the meager consumption habits of citizens and completely ignoring the massive ocean of CO2 production by large companies.

Don't people get tired of seeing this same argument being made? The amount of carbon produced by barges carrying cargo over the Atlantic so far greatly exceeds the consumption of many millions of people every single day but I'm supposed to feel guilty for eating a piece of steak today instead of some semi-edible "impossible meat" bug protein?

ETA: Nice, my first blowup since leaving reddit. Very refreshing to see some people arguing passionately. I appreciate the vigor and the quality of argumentation, everybody. The quality of discourse here is so much better than on reddit.

I'm willing to admit the "semi edible impossible meat bug protein" gamut was a bit tongue in cheek, but I recognize how it can sound genuine. I do think Impossible Meat is disgusting, but that's neither here nor there.

I eat plenty of plant matter and I regularly forage in the local forests to learn about edible plants. But I'm not going to stop enjoying steak just because it might put a bit more CO2 (why do people keep writing it as C02 online?) into the atmosphere. If removing subsidies and putting more pressure on the meat industry to be less wasteful, less environmentally impactful and more ethical towards animals causes steak to rise to $40/lb as some here have stated I'll gladly pay.

FWIW, I get my steak from local farms that are free range and grass fed. Grass feeding is healthier for the cow than the typical grain, it produces less CO2 and the steak is better quality. Plus the cows are better taken care of. Again, thanks for the great messages (generally).

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[–] stackcheese@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nah Corporations and industries creates 1000x more greenhouse gases than meat and agriculture.

[–] Rand0mA@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm enough of a cu*t as it is. If I went vegan, people wouldn't stand me, I just think I'd lose the friends I have left.

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[–] invisiblegorilla@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 months ago

The vegan brigade is back out. I dont care. I'm still eating meat. I always finish my meals and I hate wasted food. I'm not going to feel guilty that your skinny ass survives on fucking leaves, nuts and beans that turns you into an ultrapreachy unbearable cunt. And stop diverting attention from your fucking palm oil and avacado farms

[–] FRAnkly@lemmy.world -4 points 6 months ago (4 children)

What about soy derivates being used as estrogens by the body suppressing testosterone. Plus to keep soy fields you have to spray more pesticides than everything else.

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[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social -5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

There sure is a lot of effort being made to obscure the fact that most greenhouse gasses come from industrial sources.

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