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[–] BingoBangoBongo@midwest.social 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'll get it when they make it Lan multi-player.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 7 points 10 months ago

I think you will find that hell is other people.

[–] Ebahn13@pawb.social 2 points 10 months ago

I'd like to point these scientists at a 2006 movie called Paprika. Might be just a touch relevant to their studies...

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago

This sounds kind of terrifying. I'm sure it will fly off the shelves

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Lucid dreams are fun until you can't turn it off. Then you just become trapped in your dreams every night trying to constantly wake up.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Just don't use it? It's a device that actively causes lucid dreaming, you wear it around your head when you sleep. If you find the lucid dreams unpleasant just don't put it on again.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee -5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You don't need a dumb device to have lucid dreams.
You're also completely missing the point, but whatever.

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Oh dear... I must say, I hope something like this is banned for recreational usage. Before it hits the market.

Otherwise I'd be worried about creating a generation of the worst addicts we've ever seen, like, WALL-E tier stuff. Powerful narcotics have nothing on lucid dreams, they just normally take work to accomplish. A good bit of it, actually.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

There are plenty of techniques to induce a state of lucid dreaming that don't involve technology that have been used for quite a while now.

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I thought it was really interesting when the article claimed half of everyone reports one.

The danger is in the accessibility though. If it's too easy, essentially, why wake up? A healthy person probably wouldn't be at great risk, but a borderline individual would be in grave danger imo, of it permanently fucking their priorities up.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

This is the wildest "slippery slope" argument I've ever read.

"Hey guys, be careful you don't get addicted to sleeping!"

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Anything that feels good can potentially become addictive. Regardless, sorry if it bothered you. Frankly though, direct brain manipulation is going to open up all sorts of more direct ways to fuck up your brain, where we were limited to more pharmacological methods previously.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Didn't bother me; I actually found it pretty funny lol

I'm waiting for the day Total Recall or The Matrix can become real. That's the kind of stuff Gabe Newell has been working on recently. Haven't heard from him in a while tho... You don't suppose he's trapped in his own mind do you? 🤔

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Once your mind is digitized, then repairing any damage to it becomes as simple as finding what went wrong and changing a 1 to a 0. Once a subject is mastered, this becomes feasible.

In human history though, that mastery is earned through large amounts of trial and error. Marie Curie for instance, died of cancer that was likely caused by the radium she studied for so long. She just didn't know. She had no reason to know.

The early decades will be the trial and error decades. Not the mastery decades. I guess I hope you're really young, you might have a chance then.

[–] ruckblack@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago

I hope not. I could use some quality escapism.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There are also books, games and movies that are really engrossing and I find myself feeling very much immersed in. Those need to be banned immediately as well, of course.

[–] lmaydev@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I think their point is fair. Dreams can be way more intense and feel real.

You can't compare actually experiencing something as if you are there to watching a film.