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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

i wanted to buy it because i know it will be good.

but ill pirate it instead as soon as its cracked. thanks ill save myself the money, you fucks.

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[–] mo_lave@reddthat.com 27 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Only way for this to change is to vote with your (virtual) feet and wallet and "cancel" games that have DRM, in my opinion.

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[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 20 points 1 day ago

Man, they're taking the "dark ages" part seriously.

[–] IEatDaGoat@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Eh 70 dollars for 10 hours of repetitive gameplay is bad value anyway.

[–] biscuitswalrus@aussie.zone 9 points 1 day ago

Don't tell competitive gamers that. LOL, CS, Overwatch, COD whatever is about a simple game loop for those who enjoy that loop.

[–] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 4 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

No way, it’s only 10 hours? Eternal was longer than that, and so was 2016!

[–] IEatDaGoat@lemm.ee 3 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (4 children)

I finished DOOM (2016) in 8.8 hours. Granted I didn't stop for collectables and was on normal mode. I tried Eternal but got bored after 2 hours so that's what I'm basing it off.

My steam friends currently have about 17 hours (they bought it early) but they like collecting stuff and getting 100% achievements. I'm not sure how long the story is without 100%ing it but it shouldn't be too different from the other games.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk -3 points 12 hours ago (6 children)

Do you also rate books by the number of pages?

This attitude here is what has fucked up gaming more than any greedy publisher ever did.

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[–] vortexal@sopuli.xyz 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Seeing this pains me, especially considering Id Software's history with Linux. Prior to being bought by Bethesda, most of Id's games had official native Linux ports. Even Doom 3 had a native Linux port, it doesn't seem to work anymore but there are source ports like Dhewm3 available for it.

[–] BreakerSwitch@lemm.ee 6 points 23 hours ago

It wouldn't astonish me if this were a semi-deliberate act by microsoft. While they're trying very hard to expand to every platform, non-windows pcs seem to be the exception. Linux and OSX have the game gamepass support as your phone.

[–] Newsteinleo@infosec.pub 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is what happens when bean counters make the decisions. Linux is only 4% of market share so I am sure the cost of supporting Linux users was not worth it.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

so I am sure the cost of supporting Linux users was not worth it.

What's so fucking annoying about these DRM issues is that basically all of the AntiCheat and DRM we have WORK ON LINUX IF YOU ENABLE ONE FUCKING SETTING

Easy AntiCheat for example is quite literally a checkbox at some point of compiling or whatever, I've seen someone do it!

[–] Newsteinleo@infosec.pub 4 points 20 hours ago

Shows you how little they value Linux games

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[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Was this before or after this: https://lemmy.world/post/29593011

Because I'm curious why Valve would have gone to so much trouble to make the game run on Linux just to ruin that.

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 19 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Well the game runs well if you just launch it with only one Proton configuration and keep playing on that. The issue is changing the Proton version is recognized as multiple installations by the DRM and it locks you out after a couple of tries.

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago

This is what I didn't understand. Thank you for explaining.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

Aside from screwing Linux users, they're also screwing AMD users with forced ray-tracing + broken FSR, and I'd imagine there's also a lot of overlap there.

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[–] Saleh@feddit.org 34 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Fuck Microsoft. They enshittify everything and they support a genocide by helping to select targets to murder. No game is worth supporting this.

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[–] VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 75 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Earlier this year, I got a game I liked on steam. Pretty much 3d Rimworld. After playing for 20 hours over a few weeks, I sporadically started getting errors about me having "no hardware activations" left for the game, and how I should wait 24 hours. I have never installed it on any other machine.

It is so very silly that a pirated copy would be the more seamless experience.

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[–] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 53 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I remember when their DRM was just telling you that you'd go to HELL if you pirated it.

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[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago (3 children)

All this drm nonsense ever does is punishes the paying customers and maybe delays cracked version by a few days, but fucking pencil pushers still put it into everything.

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[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

you aren't buying doom because it has denuvo. im not buying doom because i am boycotting microsoft products. we are probably a little similar

[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago

Also it's $80 fucking dollars for the base edition. Everyone complaining about Nintendo game pricing but Doom gets a pass apparently.

[–] MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Denuvo identifies a user opening a game with multiple versions of Proton as multiple machines. It thinks that's piracy and locks the user out of the game

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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 212 points 1 day ago (22 children)

Just another reason to wait long after release to buy a game. Denuvo charges games companies to administer the DRM infrastructure and most developers will strip it out of their games after it's been out for a while.

Buying games on launch is one of the most anti-customer experiences you can get. And that's saying something in our wonderful capitalist economy

[–] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca 155 points 1 day ago (12 children)

Buying a game post-launch:

  • Better prices; often on sale.
  • Fixed and patched up.
  • Extra content often included.
  • DRM often removed.

No brainer, imo.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 20 hours ago

Remember when games used to, at least sometimes... do actual internal beta testing to iron out performance bugs and such?

Now we are all alpha and beta testers, all the time.

Sometimes even AAA and 'AAAA' games release, and then unrelease before the alpha or beta is even done!

Yeah, patient gaming for me, haven't preordered or gone into an early access game in almost a decade now...

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[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 85 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yet more evidence that the smartest thing you can do if the game comes from a AAA studio is hold off on buying it for 6-12 months.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If the game comes with Denuvo, never, ever buy it.

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[–] alehel@lemmy.zip 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I never buy/install games with Denuvo. Guess it will be a while before I'm playing this.

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[–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 120 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Refund and wait for a crack. Fuck Denuvo and fuck Bethesda for using them

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