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Chrome is one of the first things I disable on my Android devices, and I hate the idea of signing up for any accounts just to access local files.

But Canon welcomed me with a big surprise, and a fuck you, too!

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[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'll never buy products\brands that do this kind of shit. Never.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I worry a day will come that it's all of them.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

The problem is, you don't always know they will do this until after you pay your money for them.

[–] blackstrat@lemmy.fwgx.uk 2 points 1 day ago

Especially if its a few years down the line when you're already a few grand in to their system

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

True. But doing your homework prior to a purchase is more important than ever.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 points 19 hours ago

Of course, it always is.

But a lot of this type of enshittification can be difficult to learn about without getting your hands on thw product first. Especially if it's a new model.

[–] KulunkelBoom@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

bye bye Canon. You were once the light of my photographic life - now you're dead to me for pulling this bullshit.

[–] krf@szmer.info 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Firefox doesn't support WebUSB, Web Bluetooth and several other integrations, so applications that need to connect to other devices need some kind of Chrome application. Massive dick move by forcing account creation tho.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago

Firefox doesn't support WebUSB, Web Bluetooth and several other integrations, so applications that need to connect to other devices need some kind of Chrome application.

If those features in the browser were needed, I could be a little less infuriated (they didn't have to break previously working features, though).

However, Chrome was needed only to sign up and log in. Once that was done, I was able to disable chrome, and the app continued to work after restarting it.

Why they couldn't implement a log in directly in the app, or use the device webview api, is beyond me.

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[–] Flickerby@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Is there something about Chrome specifically that's no bueno nowadays? I haven't heard anything but to be fair I don't really keep myself in that loop too much now

[–] CompassRed@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's a general negative attitude towards chromium browsers due to some anticompetitive practices pulled by Google in addition to privacy concerns and probably some more issues I'm not aware of. So that includes chrome, but also edge and most other chromium based browsers.

[–] Flickerby@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

Ah okay, I hadn't heard about any of that, very good to know, thank you

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

I don't want any of my business being shared with Google, including the fact that I use Canon products. It's just yet another data point for them to weaponize via targeted ads and data brokering.

And simply opening Chrome means that a data siphon to Google was just opened, so telemetry data would have been collected immediately.

[–] Soapbox1858@lemm.ee 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Dude. I needed to use this app the other day for the remote shutter function, and I was somewhere with no signal and no internet. Only to discover that the app had updated and now required me to create an account to use it. I was pissed.

[–] moktor@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Same thing!! It sure steamed my broccoli.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 68 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Canon is on my personal blacklist for decades. I bought a printer from them, not just a normal A4/legal, but a professional, wide one that uses rolls of paper, etc. I was unhappy with the state of the driver under Linux, so I called and asked for a programming documentation to write my own printer driver. Their opinion on Linux/open source was that "open source is theft of intellectual property".

[–] quack@lemmy.zip 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I wonder how many open source libraries their driver codebase relies on, it had best be zero with that attitude.

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[–] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Their opinion is stupid, but I’m also not sure what you expected when you asked some random sales rep for deep technical info.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago

I contacted both technical support for commercial systems and later their booth on a big technical trade fair (CeBit Hannover), and got basically the same opinion both times. The first was definitely no "Sales Rep", and the people at the booth were a manager and an engineer.

But I agree, their opinion is stupid.

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[–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't have much experience with cameras but isn't it usually sd cards that you can pull out and transfer using a sd reader? Does the camera have internal storage that needs an account and app?

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

For data transfer only, yes, you can eject the SD card and copy your files.

But the app is used for other features, too. So you're inconvenienced no matter what feature you use.

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[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (12 children)

magiclantern.

Jailbreak your shit. You own it don't you?

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Magic Lantern is awesome!

Unfortunately, it's for higher-end cameras, not my old point-and-shoot cameras. And it doesn't magically give your device GPS for geotagging images :(

The app was fine. The enshittification of the app is not.

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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 235 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Forward it to Louis Rossman. He'll make an entire video about it and add it to the wiki tracking these scummy companies.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 76 points 3 days ago (26 children)

I agree with pretty much all of that guy’s takes, but he REALLY sketches me out for some reason. I don’t know what it is.

[–] BURN@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I cannot stand him. I agree with the broad idea of his message, but Jesus he’s insufferable and constantly feels like he’s talking down to his audience

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[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 days ago (8 children)

In order to access my tax and benefit accounts on the Government of Canada website I can only use Chrome ... making sure to wipe all cookies, etc afterwards.

I freaking hate shite like this.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Is that through the CRA website? I've been able to access it on Firefox (through Linux) without being hassled.

But yeah, websites that force you to use Chrome would get on my nerves. I'd be sandboxing that entire browsing session, too. LOL

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[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 120 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"Yes, I'd like to return this camera because it's an invasive piece of shit"

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[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

In terms of the chrome only thing, you can probably use a UA switcher on firefox and it will probs let you in. It's probably just checking your user agent, nothing more.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

It actually wanted the chrome app to be enabled and only opens the chrome app for the sign up/log in process.

So a user agent switch wouldn't have helped in this case.

[–] krf@szmer.info 3 points 1 day ago

Firefox doesn't support WebUSB and Web Bluetooth on any platform.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 93 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (11 children)

Yes indeed, I just wrote a rant about this in the Canon community on here.

The two edges of this sword: All of the functionality worked in the previous edition of the app without the "mandatory" account. The upshot of this is, if you grab an APK of the previous (3.2.40.36) version of the app it still works just fine sans account, because the requirement is completely artificial and your camera's hardware has not changed.

That's what I did for now, but given that I only ever used the damn thing as an overwrought remote shutter button when doing macrophotography (you'll never guess the subject), I just bought $6 aftermarket remote release and moved on with life.

For added fun and excitement, if you don't have internet connectivity the app won't work. So, like, if you're out in the wilds on a hike with your camera. Nobody ever does that, right?

All apps are crap. This one is extra crap, now. I've never used it for geotagging and certainly not for transferring images -- not more than once, anyway, because on my phone it takes a solid 15 seconds per image. It would be faster for me to not only take the card out, but crack it open and inspect it with a tunneling electron microscope and type the ones and zeroes into a terminal by hand. I just put the damn card in a reader instead. Always have done.

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[–] onyxjet@lemmy.world 55 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yup, sucks. What I do is just take out the card a plug it into a little USB dongle thing which I can plug into either my phone or laptop.

Also faster than the app too. The app uses WiFi or Bluetooth. Its also annoyingly finicky to connect tk the camera.

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 75 points 3 days ago (9 children)

What I do is just take out the card a plug it into a little USB dongle thing which I can plug into either my phone or laptop.

What's wild to me is that anyone would do it any other way. I'm astounded that this is somehow a "tip".

Not even 10 years ago it was simply the way to do it.

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[–] nickiam2@aussie.zone 11 points 2 days ago

I rolled back the app to an older version before this was required and blocked it from network or updating. The only feature I use is the gps data over bluetooth and remote shutter. Canon can go F*** themselves with this nonsense

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