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[–] RobertMitchum@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 45 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Intolerance doesn't kill people..why do people.always seem so shocked when people still want dairy when they just get upset stomachs and wanna shit after..makes no sense to question it.

[–] TesterJ@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Wanna shit" is a bit of an understatement for what happens, but yeah, just take a 9000 unit lactase pill every 30 minutes while consuming it and you'll be fine. Or maybe two pills if you're eating a LOT of cheese.

[–] lemmylommy@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ripened cheese (eg cheddar, Emmental, Monterey Jack, Parmesan, Brie…) usually does not have any significant amount of lactose left. The ripening process gets rid of it. If you are lactose intolerant you just need to avoid fake/processed β€žcheeseβ€œ and fresh cheeses (eg mozzarella, ricotta, cream cheese). That said, taking lactase pills when it’s not necessary will not hurt you, just your wallet.

[–] cole@lemdro.id 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

boy, mozzarella is a rough ride

[–] Uranium_Green@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

If you can get lactose free milk where you live (which in and of itself is a godsend), then you can make lactose free mozzarella from it, just follow online videos for meeting your own mozzarella (it takes like 30 mins and you can freeze it)

[–] Uranium_Green@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Interestingly parmesan in any quantity over a couple of grams still messes me up, it really depends on the person

[–] lemmylommy@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Have you considered histamine intolerance? Real Parmesan should have next to no lactose left. Generally longer aging means less lactose, but more histamine. And Parmesan is aged at least 12 months.

[–] Blayss@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Also might be worth looking into products made from A2A2 milk. My friends are lactose intolerant and they can drink and eat products made from A2A2 without pills or any problem.

[–] Bondrewd@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Tryptophane uptake is also inhibited so it could cause serious depressive issues.

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same. Just need to make sure I don't need to leave the house the next day.

[–] Fester@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Yep. Iβ€˜ll eat mac and cheese, but just let me check this week’s schedule.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lactose intolerance is the norm for humans. Somehow this doesn't get communicated since practically no one knows it. Up until somewhat recently all humans were lactose intolerant. Iirc tolerance started with starving Europeans making full use of cows a few thousand years ago, then over time people became able to tolerate it.

Experts estimate that about 68 percent of the world’s population has lactose malabsorption.

Source: https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/digestive-diseases/lactose-intolerance/definition-facts

All that to say yeah, it's a very common condition and most people who have it probably still eat lactose as it's not all that bad to get the shits. Come on, it's cheese and ice cream we're talking about here. And pizza. Even if the consequences were awful, humans are also pretty good at ignoring consequences when deciding if they want something they really like

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But how are those percentages distributed globally? If the 32% mostly resides within middle/west europe and american continents with a minority in Asia it totally makes sense why we have that understanding in the west.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not everyone in the West is fully European, but even if they were, a significant portion of even those people are lactose intolerant. I mentioned the global stat 1) because it was available 2) to illustrate the point that just because we evolved something recently doesn't make it the standard way for a person to be.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I understood that.
But if you have the majority of the minority in one place the perspective is skewed towards thinking the minority is actually in the majority even if it isnt.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The vast majority of humans are lactose intolerant. I sort of get your point but mine still stands. Especially considering in America the percentage is 36% even though we are by majority white still

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/lactose-intolerance-by-country

Sort that data and you'll see a lot of countries even higher.

I think the real reason this issue is not known about is because it involves poop and that's a taboo topic that embarrasses people.

Growing up, and still today, if I just went by popular discourse, it would seem to be less than 10%

Lactase persistence has actually evolved around a dozen times independently. Most of the genes originated in Africa, but the one Europeans have evolved in the Indus valley area before the Indo-aryan people migrated to Europe.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

My mother, who is lactose intolerant and offered something with dairy, usually says, "I won't regret it, but you will."

[–] dill@lemmy.one 14 points 1 year ago

Last night at the grocery store I saw 2 for $1 small hass avocados and nearly fell over dead. I am now retired, independently wealthy, and bought 4 homes. 3 to live in and 1 to rent to the suckers who missed the deal.

[–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Gargantu8@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pills don't work for me at all!

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you find high sugar bothers you in general? If the pills don't do anything you might have an intolerance for some specific form of sugar. I have a fructose malabsorption and it sucks because I also have a sweet tooth, haha.

[–] Gargantu8@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Damn you might be on to something... I swear anything with added sugar bothers me and I've been realizing that recently. What symptoms do you get? I feel like heartburn is the main thing I notice with sugar and/or milk

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not to be gross but my main symptoms are gas and diarrhea. It's worth talking with your doctor about, there are tests that can help narrow down exactly what's causing you issues.

[–] Gargantu8@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Haha you're good! Thanks for replying.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

How much lactose would be in those?

[–] unreachable@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

price (in)tolerant