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[–] SHITPOSTING_ACCOUNT@feddit.de 32 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If they need to drop the wage threshold, the problem doesn't seem to be a lack of skilled labor, it seems to be a lack of cheap skilled labor.

[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Most employers over here are greedy as fuck and prefer overworking and exhausting the few remaining staff instead of hiring additional workforce for higher (i.e. liveable) wages.

The employers in Germany are simply dumb assholes. Let their companies run into the ground, they deserve it.

[–] ISOmorph@feddit.de 18 points 10 months ago

Same story at my company. Everybody's crying at the lack of skilled labor to justify outsourcing to east europe and india. Couple years later everybody's crying because of the brain drain and how expensive external ressources have become. It's a never ending circle of short sighted stupidity.

[–] branchial@feddit.de 4 points 10 months ago

Welcome to capitalism. This is by design.

[–] Mopswasser@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago

More a problem with politics. Many forward-thinking businesses here.

[–] RedPandaRaider@feddit.de 0 points 10 months ago

It's a lack of wages. Just take a look at youth unemployment in Spain for example. They could move to Germany when ever they wanted. But German workplaces are simply not competitive and pay shit for the expenses you have in Germany.

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 20 points 10 months ago (4 children)

As long as your permit is tied to a single employer for the first two years and you need to send the contract to the immigration office that then sends it to the emplyoment office, which then has to decide whether there might be a German who could do the job,then send it back and finally after three months to six month of waiting, you finally are allowed to enter the country and start working, none of these relaxed rules will really help.

The enitre process is a huge shitshow and the idea behind it remains that you the worthless foreigner should get on your knees and beg for the great heavem of Germany to grant you permission to enter. Because of that the law for modernizing citizenship still didnt pass, and probably wont because the conservatives and reactionaries are drooling with "the German citizenship is a priviledge and must not be given away for free!!!11!" at the suggestion to lower the requirement from 6-8 years to 3-5 years.

On top of that be prepared to be insulted and assaulted, if you come to Germany and look "brown" in any way. Also the next government will likely be a right populist with fascist extremist coalition so expect most of these rules to be revoked. Finally if you do come here and you do stay here, be ready for the children of your grandchildren to be considered foreigners.

[–] teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

@tryptaminev @sv1sjp

> The law is set up so that German citizens have first crack at jobs.

> This is unacceptable!

Why do you hate Native Germans so much?

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

i dont hate Germans.

The rule doesnt make sense when the reality since years is, that companys often dont find Germans in many jobs. So in reality there is little cases, where that happens and instead it is wasting everyones time. And that is harmfull for all Germans. It is tax money spent on useless administration,but more importantly it is time that people are delayed from work. So no productivity, no taxes, no payments to the pension and health funds.

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago

This is not entirely true. Many employees simply do not want to pay a fair wage, they do not want to educate their own employees and they hate older job seekers.

Their dream is to hire already fully educated 20somethings who work for minimum wage. Keeping other countries desperate is great for German employers. So is to outsource all education.

They don't care for the people here who have to live from welfare money that gets cut left and right. Or for the people who are desperately looking for work after being stay at home parents or after illness. They won't even offer apprenticeships. And those that do only accept young applicants.

[–] albert180@feddit.de -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

It's not the norm to get insulted and assaulted if you look "brown" in big cities. Some Shitvillage in Saxonia maybe, but usually not in big university cities

[–] branchial@feddit.de 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Being insulted is still prevalent. It doesn't have to be slurs, but for example using "du" when speaking to nonwhite people in situations where "sie" would absolutely be the default. That's one type of racist insulting that's still very prevalent.

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes it is. All of my friends, whoa re eprceived brown, from the people that moved to Germany six years ago, to the people whose grandparents came to Germany 60 years ago, experienced racism regurarly, and often racist violence such as getting chased after, being spit at, or in once case an ambush with knives. And this is all in Berlin, Hamburg, "Left leaning" University towns and so on.

Germany is an extremely racist country and it has gotten much worse over the past years.

[–] Mopswasser@feddit.de -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Ahh yes. Germans and looking away and denying the prevalence of racism. Name a more iconic duo.

[–] albert180@feddit.de 2 points 10 months ago

I have many international friends in university and they never mentioned anything like this. Only that the AuslΓ€nderbehΓΆrde are a bunch of entitled Assholes. But I don't live in Hamburg or Berlin, so I can't comment on this, only that it's sad that such things seem to still happen there

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


With immediate effect, more academic and similarly qualified workers from third countries will be able to come to Germany on the EU Blue Card without German language requirements.

In the IT sector, skilled workers without a university degree can also receive an EU Blue Card if they can prove that they have at least three years of relevant professional experience.

Once in Germany, workers will also have more flexibility in changing careers, although regulated professions β€” such as law and medicine β€” will still require the necessary qualifications.

Skilled workers with professional or academic qualifications who meet all the requirements are now entitled to a residence permit.

Concerning spouses and underage children, skilled workers will have to prove they can support their livelihoods, but not that they have sufficient living space.

Another regulation affects people from countries in the western Balkans, which doubles the quota to 50,000 workers from Albania, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Kosovo, Montenegro, North Macedonia, and Serbia who may come to Germany.


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[–] Chaphasilor@feddit.nl 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"from third countries" probably should've been "from third-world countries"

[–] wieson@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Probably not. Third countries are countries not in the EU (or Schengen).

[–] Chaphasilor@feddit.nl 2 points 10 months ago

Oh okay! Thanks for letting me know!

[–] link@lemy.lol 1 points 10 months ago

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[–] RedPandaRaider@feddit.de -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Awful. We need to curb immigration. Not because of some immigrant bad argument, but because we need an actual labour shortage, which despite media propaganda does not exist yet. A labour shortage will lead to increased incomes and better working conditions if the corrupt government doesn't bend the knee to corpos again.

[–] S_204@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago

Slowly making it harder for Islamic jihadists to enter.... probably should speed things up.

Next up should be the white supremacists who are gaining traction in Germany. Different problem, same problem.