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[โ€“] Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I think the drive to deliver on targets might be getting in the way of more effective policy delivery here.

Social and affordable housing has been ignored for decades as an issue. Now we're finally starting to deal with it, but these massive purchases? Doesn't this risk creating a slum-like situation that works for no one?

Or alternatively, maybe these buildings provide effectiveness of service delivery in a central location, as well as minimising effects on lots more neighbours. I'm thinking of one situation i know of, of a family who moved into social housing near me and have made life very difficult for all their neighbours. To the point its become a reason, (not the only reason), some friends sold and moved.

I'm conflicted about this one. And i don't know enough.

[โ€“] HalfEarthMedic@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Doesn't this risk creating a slum-like situation that works for no one?

I have very little time for this argument, although I acknowledge that it is one sentence in a longer more nuanced post.

The fact is that these people need to be housed and housing near to public transport, employment and services is going to result in fewer "problematic" neighbours than housing them out in the middle of bum-f**k nowhere.

The vast majority of public housing residents will be fine neighbours, even if inner city folks wouldn't necessarily invite them around for a barbecue. The people who make genuine problems for the neighbours need to be somewhere, I see no reason that burden should be placed on other poor people in preference to the wealthy.

Edit: Whoops, didn't realise this was a month old...

...I see no reason that burden should be placed on other poor people in preference to the wealthy.

Yeah, thats why i pointed to the perceived risk that buying large buildings for one single pupose risks a slumlike situation developing. The concentration in one building.

The alternative in my mind, that i didn't mention, would be to spread the house purchases through-out the suburb. Which led me to the case some friends experienced, rendering me in two minds.

I'm all for social housing across all suburbs. In fact with a couple seconds thought, and putting on my oversized-poorly-educated development economics hat, i think they should be concentrated more heavily in better-off to well-off communities. Those are the communities most able, however unwilliingly, to support and lift up someone who needs social housing.

neighbours than housing them out in the middle of bum-f**k nowhere

I don't think you mean as far out as rural, pastoral regions, but as i read this, thats where my mind was drawn. And there are problems in regards this.

Not sure its got anything to do with social housing, but you take the community and infrastructure connections away and the effects are pretty clear from the troubles some country towns have.

[โ€“] Longmactoppedup@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I hope that they do a better job of managing tenants who cause problems than they would for those in the suburbs.

There must be plenty of non problematic tenants that can go in these large buildings.

I feel that while no one wants to be next to problem neighbours, at least if they are in a detached building then their impact is on less people.

Yeah, thats my initial thought, but then i remembered that family, and like everytime i've driven by they seem to have spread their mess out further and are always outside themselves, it can't make for a peaceful environment for the neighbours.

So in my head i's thinking if a problem resident is in a building like these, well maybe security guards can be stationed to keep things from going off the rails. But as i type this, the imagery seems more like a prison than housing.